You ever worry about dirty gear?

[Agentman]

So ordering from UGL do you all ever worry about getting dirty gear? Or is the main concern getting gear that just doesn't work?

[flenser]

depends on the UGL..

[< <Samson> >]

Both or either

I'm an ass, I try to use someone as a Ginny pig. But, in some cases it's me

Research what you're getting as much as possible

[Getlean007]

Both or either I'm an ass, I try to use someone as a Ginny pig. But, in some cases it's me Research what you're getting as much as possible

This and if you're unaware of a UGLs reputation then don't buy it. Get your information from a reliable source or get people's input here on the forum, as brand talk is allowed. For the most part, research is key. If you know a car company is known for producing cheap cars then would you buy that companies cars? Same with gear

[boostjunkie09]

I feel like there's a risk to a degree no matter how good the rep of the UGL. I myself haven't cycled yet. I know a hand full of people using a particular source without issue for years.

But when I take that step. I'm still nervous of anything that is possibly made in someone's house and not a medical lab with safety protocols for contaminants.

[David LoPan]

Always a risk in anything you do. Hell, even RX at the drug store can be faked and from China. You just never know. IMO if "hand full of people using a particular source without issue for years" go with them.

[< <Samson> >]

After much thought & heavy use, I think brewing your own is the safest bet.

Just my opinion so far. 80% of gear I have been running has been brew, just made by someone other than myself.

I guess you can call them a UGL. But, they made dozens if vials if that - not hundreds

[Chicagotarsier]

Even pharma grade has recalls and issues in manufacturing. Nothing is safe...even those Hootie Owl round tip scissors your kid brings to school :P

Extremely comfortable: Homebrew

Comfortable: Pharma, Almost pharma (Balkan, Kalpa, etc)

Dodgy: the rest

The caveat is WHERE you get it from. Buying Pharma watsons from a non-popular site is worse than buying from an UGL because of the faking aspect.

[lovbyts]

No, I never worry because it does not good to worry about what has not happened. Ill deal with it if it does. That's why I have antibiotics at home and a doctor 2 miles away.

[Chicagotarsier]

My first batch of 6 substances totaled 800ml. That is enough for my TrT and my cycles for the year. If a person is to supply 5 people multiply that by 5 = 4L. You become a shop quickly lol.

After much thought & heavy use, I think brewing your own is the safest bet.

Just my opinion so far. 80% of gear I have been running has been brew, just made by someone other than myself.

I guess you can call them a UGL. But, they made dozens if vials if that - not hundreds

[austinite]

I like to assume that all UGL gear is trash, and never use it.

[boostjunkie09]

I like to assume that all UGL gear is trash, and never use it.

That puts us in the states in a tough spot. Pharma is hard to come by. At least for me

[Chicagotarsier]

Many brew their own stuff. I think it is natural progression if you are serious and not a 1-2 cycle and quit type. The cost of 2 cycles via UGL would set a person up with equipment and enough powder for 5+ years and have money left over....plus the piece of mind that it was done sterile. Fake powders? Costs more to fake them than to make them.

That puts us in the states in a tough spot. Pharma is hard to come by. At least for me

[lovbyts]

Many brew their own stuff. I think it is natural progression if you are serious and not a 1-2 cycle and quit type. The cost of 2 cycles via UGL would set a person up with equipment and enough powder for 5+ years and have money left over....plus the piece of mind that it was done sterile. Fake powders? Costs more to fake them than to make them.

Unless you order powder and what you receive is a baggie full of refined flour.... Yes it happens, trust me even if its a well known source. Sometimes they just go bad.

[Buster Brown]

This is a concern to all of us. No one wants under dosed gear or bunk gear all together BUT i think what is worse is dirty gear that you end up with an infection that involves medical treatment from. This does in fact happen and it reminds us all that we need to stay on our toes.

[< <Samson> >]

I like to assume that all UGL gear is trash, and never use it.

Of course

We all have pharmacies dispense out gear < lol

[evander87]

Worry? No. Is it a concern? Yeah. I have a buddy cycling for years using the same lab. Got a dirty batch and was laid up in the hospital with an infection for weeks. He's out back on but with a different lab. It's a risk we all take when we jab stuff into our bodies. Know the risks and weigh the rewards and pin and pray.

Eat meticulous, train ridiculous for best results.