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Assuming the times/weight in the gif isn't lying?
Starting weight- 179 pounds 6' 3"
4 months- gained 37 pounds
1month- lost 14pounds
1month- lost 9pounds
1month- lost 8pounds
Can anyone guess the Bulk steroid cycle? Just Test plausible?
Does it definitely look like something like clen was also used for the cut to maintain that much muscle through cutting?
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The "secret" is a lie. That's why I am here for the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back In Black
Truth is
It's impossible to tell
It's like asking what the pro's use or what Franco used. Or what anybody with results uses. It's all conjecture.
Would you believe it if he only used Test? Also used nothing for cutting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back In Black
I'm just curious of "likely" scenarios in the view of experienced people from this site. I'm not looking for exact routine/dosages, etc. Whatever you think, realistically, could give those results.
Over an 8 month period yes I would believe test only could give those results added to a dedicated diet/training/cardio regimen. He weighs the same at the end as he does at the beginning and didn't exactly start from scratch. Test is as much a cutting drug as it is a bulking one.
Is it likely he only used test? Probably not but, again, it's impossible to say what he has used.
He used nothing for cutting because he already has a really good diet that meets his needs, being a lean. His size is 100% possible being 100% natural. Decent diet and a few years training. No magic pill. He is far from huge. His arms are maybe 16" at best.
Isn't test for 8 months dangerous? Regular test cycle 3 months with no cutting drug look like it can give someone those results?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back In Black
To the "Is it likely he only used test? Probably not" comment, are you referring to using test+something else during the bulk? or something during the cut?
I appreciate your input. Thank you.
I have seen those results from 8 weeks of bootcamp in Orlando Florida and those guys were not in shape to start. As said above he was solid to start.
There is no magic pill. I can tell you from the past 3 months...
Having a proper level of testosterone in your system (TrT)
Having a good diet..ie CLEAN and MACROED based on TDEE
Having a DEDICATED workout cycle. For me 5 days a week with 2 days consecutive rest.
My weight has stayed the same and I have dropped 5 points of bodyfat as of my last BodPod. How much could I drop with a cutting cycle inserted? Not a lot more at this point than I am currently achieving. Overall weight loss could happen easily with help but we will get to that AFTER my research and supplies are all in place for the WHOLE cycle.
In a nutshell in 3 months I have accomplished what he has with nothing but diet and exercise.
It's irrelevant what he used because it doesn't mean you will experience the same results. Some are more gifted than others so forget what someone else achieved and concentrate on what you can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier
I've also seen remarkable gains in tissue and fat loss from low dose and I've seen shite resulting from high dose. Genetics diet and how you train are the foundations of growth
Certainly could be done using test only. Ive put on 13 lbs while maintaining same bf just with trt dosages since september. No change in diet or training. A decent lean bulk on a higj test cycle could easily get you the results of the guy in the pic. Atleast the bulk portion of the gif.
I wouldnt think you would need clen to get his cut though over the period of time it took him. Possibly once get got around 9% bf he used clen to finish off.
But overall, you certainly would not need tren (if thats what you were suggesting) to get his results.
Im a believer in IIFYM. Honestly I think the "cleanliness" of ones diet is fairly overrated to a degree. However in order to fit your macros a certain level of clean foods are needed because you wont be meeting your macros on big macs. Point is, you can have a big mac for lunch and still get all your necessary macros and see the same results. Obviously there are other health concerns with eating dirty food like that, but in terms of bulking and cutting, it doesnt make a difference and makes dieiting less miserable when you arent eating dry chicken breast and broccoli every mealQuote:
Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier
Thanks. This is kind of what I was fishing for: Test, maybe Clen, and Tren not needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxbrah
Test only cycles are AWESOME! why would people think otherwise? guess everyone thinks more it always better. I love just test cycle. maybe add low dose deca or a short run of an oral.. Test is Best! :-)