Gyno protocol?

**Fullthrottle1999** · 05-19-2014, 11:06 AM

Small lump developed. Upped adex from .5eod to .5ed, progression stopped but there is a painless pebble. I'm going to start letro. I'm wondering about my adex dose while taking letro. Should I start adex again once I.start to taper letro down?

**austinite** · 05-19-2014, 12:00 PM

Letro is garbage for gynecomastia when compared to a SERM like Raloxifene or Tamoxifen . Look into SERM therapy, not AI abuse.

**Fullthrottle1999** · 05-19-2014, 12:43 PM

...first time I've heard nolva recommended over letro. The growth is already there, wouldn't a serm just prevent further growth? Where letro would zap it by eliminating all estrogen?

**austinite** · 05-19-2014, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Fullthrottle1999

...first time I've heard nolva recommended over letro. The growth is already there, wouldn't a serm just prevent further growth? Where letro would zap it by eliminating all estrogen?

No. SERMS bind to estrogen receptors in breast tissue like no other. It's a targeted fix, not a general attempt. Check the PCT section for a tremendous amount of info in SERM therapy.

**jimmyinkedup** · 05-19-2014, 01:03 PM

Listen to Austinite. Take you dex to mange your e2 and take your serm, ralox or tamox, to treat you gyno.

**Fullthrottle1999** · 05-19-2014, 04:23 PM

OK thanks. Will check it out

**Fullthrottle1999** · 05-19-2014, 06:31 PM

I'll be on a 19nor for the next 2weeks, I heard nolva and tren was a no no?

**austinite** · 05-19-2014, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Fullthrottle1999

I'll be on a 19nor for the next 2weeks, I heard nolva and tren was a no no?

You heard wrong.

Is your profile accurate? You're only 22?

**Fullthrottle1999** · 05-19-2014, 06:48 PM

Yes age equals knowledge

**austinite** · 05-19-2014, 06:50 PM

Hmmm. Probably should lay off the steroids .

**Fullthrottle1999** · 05-19-2014, 06:51 PM

I'm just pestimistic about nolva because it didn't help the last time I had a little flare up. I was running just test p at that time and I believe it was letro that zapped it

**austinite** · 05-19-2014, 06:55 PM

You should probably stop using steroids altogether.

**Fullthrottle1999** · 05-20-2014, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

You should probably stop using steroids altogether.

Thanks for the advice

My original question had nothing to do with nolva. While it can eradicate gyno lumps I don't want to be taking it for the next 6-12weeks.. Letro is for sure no fuxking around course of action. My question is when to start up adex as I'm coming off letro

**Fullthrottle1999** · 05-20-2014, 10:35 AM

Bumping for legit advice

**Fullthrottle1999** · 05-20-2014, 10:47 AM

I have a doc appointment on the 29th. Should I wait on adding letro until I get the results back? Test for prolactin, e2, and testosterone levels . Thoughts?

**numbere** · 05-20-2014, 11:50 AM

Your question was answered already. Get rid of the letro and use a serm like rolax or tamox. Stop taking steroids you are too young.

**Fullthrottle1999** · 05-20-2014, 01:48 PM

What if its prolactin related? Nolva is going to help?

**numbere** · 05-20-2014, 02:35 PM

Do I have Gynecomastia? If you're asking this question, read this thread.

Stop Using Aromatase Inhibitors to Reverse gynecomastia! SERM's Only!

**RangerDanger830** · 05-20-2014, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Fullthrottle1999

Bumping for legit advice

If this advice isn't legit then I do not know what is. For the record, I do not condone you using steroids whatsoever due to your age and lack of knowledge. Having stated my disclaimer I know you are already on them and will not stop so let me reiterate what everyone else is telling you in hopes you will take our advice.

Increasing your AI dose, or switching to the stronger AI like Letro, will only help you if you weren't running enough AI in the first place. By help I of course mean it will better manage your estrogen and therefore slightly reduce your chance of getting any more gyno. But since you haven't posted bloodwork I am assuming you haven't done enough BW to know how much of an AI you need. So you are just guessing as to how much AI you need. Even if your AI is dialed in, or even overdosed, your gyno might not go away on its own. If it does go away, it won't be because you took the AI.

The SERMs however, like Ralox and Nolva, in that order, will help treat your gyno much more effectively. We aren't just pulling this out of our cornhole, there are so many studies supporting the use of SERMs as effective gyno reversal drugs that I am not even going to bother posting any of them. The data is there for you, just one google scholar search away. Take the SERMs on cycle. I have had to do that two times in my life.

Also, you mentioned being on a 19nor. I hope you have prolactin control such as Prami or Caber.