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    Cant get real hard

    Hi guys!! I just finished my second cycle, And im currently on pct

    I made a very big mistake i took tren deca oxy in same cycle.

    and i first got hand in carbergoline at week 12

    Now i cant get as hard as u used to and i just turned 19 years old

    i took this cycle cuz my dealer told me it would be the best for mass gain.

    but after what i can read its all bullshit cycle
    My cycle was,

    1 gram test ew 1-16
    700 deca ew 1-14
    150 Tren hex ew- 10-16
    dbol 50mg ed 1-8
    oxy 50mg ed 8-16

    i have 1 week back of my pct
    i do clomid nolva and hcg

    i also didnt used an ai until i started getting gyno cuz i was told ai would cause less gains. and i can still squizze water our from my niples.

    Is there anything i can do to get back to normal? like hc generate, unleshed or anyhing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jolgas12 View Post
    i have 1 week back of my pct
    i do clomid nolva and hcg

    i also didnt used an ai until i started getting gyno cuz i was told ai would cause less gains. and i can still squizze water our from my niples.

    Is there anything i can do to get back to normal? like hc generate, unleshed or anyhing?
    Clomid, Nolva and HCG?? HCG is used during cycle and/or pre-PCT... never during PCT.

    You really look like you dont know what you are doing...

    You really need BW to find out whats going on...

    19 years old... geezzzz
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    Just wow.....

    Deca , the long ester, takes a long time to get out of system. For drug tests it is 2 years and for testosterone HPTA suppression it is 2 months or so.

    You did end Deca at 2 weeks before ending your cycle which is good but that was a LOT of Deca you were on.

    Can you detail your PCT please. Doses and timeframe.

    Quote Originally Posted by jolgas12 View Post
    Hi guys!! I just finished my second cycle, And im currently on pct

    I made a very big mistake i took tren deca oxy in same cycle.

    and i first got hand in carbergoline at week 12

    Now i cant get as hard as u used to and i just turned 19 years old:/

    i took this cycle cuz my dealer told me it would be the best for mass gain.

    but after what i can read its all bullshit cycle
    My cycle was,

    1 gram test ew 1-16
    700 deca ew 1-14
    Tren hex - 10-16
    dbol 50mg ed 1-8
    oxy 50mg ed 8-16

    i have 1 week back of my pct
    i do clomid nolva and hcg

    i also didnt used an ai until i started getting gyno cuz i was told ai would cause less gains. and i can still squizze water our from my niples.

    Is there anything i can do to get back to normal? like hc generate, unleshed or anyhing?

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    im off the hcg now. and ordered hc genereate, would it help if add prami or carber during pct?

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    i did the hcg 1 week after last shot test. 2000iu first two shots rest 500iu ed with 15000 iu' total.

    DAY 1: 150mg clomid 60mg nolva
    Week 1: 100mg Clomid / 40mg nolva ED
    Week 2: 50mg Clomid / 40mg Nolva ED
    Week 3: 50 Clomid / 30mg Nolva ED
    Week 4:50clomid 30mg Nolva ED

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    Pct is good. Get some raloxifene for the gyno.
    60 mg ed till gone.

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    Thank what about prami or carber should i add that?,can i buy raloxifene as a peptide?

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    How was your gains?

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    i went from 68kg to 82kg

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    At 19yrs old you shouldn't be cycling, shutting down your natural test when its not even developed yet is bad news. You will lose all your gains and will suffer problems like you are doing, at 19yrs old you should learn to train and eat correctly and establish a foundation and don't shut down your natural test. Big mistake
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    i keept the gains from my first cycle so i should keep this too

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolgas12 View Post
    i keept the gains from my first cycle so i should keep this too
    You wont when you have low test because you have fuked yours up due to cycling at 18yrs old. You will understand soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    You wont when you have low test because you have fuked yours up due to cycling at 18yrs old. You will understand soon enough.
    This is very true, OP. Look at how many guys here are on TRT for life because of using AAS in their teens and early 20's. You will be extremely lucky if you recover anything close to normal function. Do the suggested PCT and then get some blood work. Be prepared to meet an endocrinologist shortly thereafter.

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    That's a very rough situation that you've created for yourself.

    However, there is a chance that you can recover your natural hormone cycle. I cite the below study where a bodybuilder, after a year of importance, was as successful at restoring his sex drive after taking clomid @ 100mg/day for one month.

    Impotence related to anabolic steroid use in a body builder. Response to clomiphene citrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolgas12 View Post
    Hi guys!! I just finished my second cycle, And im currently on pct

    I made a very big mistake i took tren deca oxy in same cycle.

    and i first got hand in carbergoline at week 12

    Now i cant get as hard as u used to and i just turned 19 years old:/

    i took this cycle cuz my dealer told me it would be the best for mass gain.

    but after what i can read its all bullshit cycle
    My cycle was,

    1 gram test ew 1-16
    700 deca ew 1-14
    150 Tren hex ew- 10-16
    dbol 50mg ed 1-8
    oxy 50mg ed 8-16

    i have 1 week back of my pct
    i do clomid nolva and hcg

    i also didnt used an ai until i started getting gyno cuz i was told ai would cause less gains. and i can still squizze water our from my niples.

    Is there anything i can do to get back to normal? like hc generate, unleshed or anyhing?
    damn!

    and only 19 years old to boot. See why we say youngsters should not take AAS?

    not trying to judge mate.

    All I can say is to extend your PCT, take bloods regularly, and hopefully, over time, you'll get the use of your johnny back.

    You may need to have a sit down with your woman and explain why you can't pleasure her; else she may think you are losing interest with her?

    Good luck!
    ---Roman

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    I had the same problem. Finish pct and get to the doc. They prescribed me with a anti depression that brought me back

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    Biggest thing here is to watch ur estro level. With test lower obviously ur estro is off. Again get to a doc, and be 100% honest with them

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    A gram a week at 19? Dayum

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    A gram hahahaha what are u trying for Mr.O????

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    can i get bloodwork done while on hcgenerate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolgas12 View Post
    Hi guys!! I just finished my second cycle, And im currently on pct

    I made a very big mistake i took tren deca oxy in same cycle.

    and i first got hand in carbergoline at week 12

    Now i cant get as hard as u used to and i just turned 19 years old:/

    i took this cycle cuz my dealer told me it would be the best for mass gain.

    but after what i can read its all bullshit cycle
    My cycle was,

    1 gram test ew 1-16
    700 deca ew 1-14
    150 Tren hex ew- 10-16
    dbol 50mg ed 1-8
    oxy 50mg ed 8-16

    i have 1 week back of my pct
    i do clomid nolva and hcg

    i also didnt used an ai until i started getting gyno cuz i was told ai would cause less gains. and i can still squizze water our from my niples.

    Is there anything i can do to get back to normal? like hc generate, unleshed or anyhing?

    Unbelievable...wow.

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    You gained 75lbs right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAAS View Post
    You gained 75lbs right?
    From above post he went from 68 to 82kgs, so 30 pounds on this 2nd cycle.

    What puzzles me is what weight was he when started 1st cycle. If he made same gains as this last cycle he must have started cycling at 54kgs (just below 120pounds)

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    wtf this should be a sticky of what not to do

    Good luck man

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    Also You could always try a ASIAN girl that works for me

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    At 19 your natty test should be through the roof on its own , I was humping like a rabbit at 19 , in all seriousness your gonna need to see an endocronologist an be real honest with him. ... Good luck young bro!

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    I hope you like and you're good at eating *****! lol cuz time is going to pass very slowly for you! Lay off the gear for some time and get reading, do some research, you obviously have not done much.

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    Should i do bloodwork during hc generate or wait?

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    I know it's been said but I need to say it too, Wow! just wow...

    Yes get blood work now just to see where your levels are now. You will need more blood work later.

    Do you get the point that more is not better now? DONT use any aas for several more years. You need to the time to recover, learn about diet and training and make sure you have really recovered. Hopefully you have not done any permanent damage yet but it may take a few years to really know.

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    What hormnoes does he have to check? can u send me a list of what hormones to check?

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    Start by reading this. You need a test that covers most everything in there and this explains what they are for and what they should be.
    http://forums.steroid.com/before-you...k-article.html

    Here is a good test panel.
    http://www.*************.com/lab_tes...4&search=#1033

    The Hormone Panel for Males contains the following tests:
    -Lipid Profile
    -Complete Blood Count w/ Differential
    -Estradiol, Sensitive
    -Insulin Growth Factor (IGF-1)
    -Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
    -Testosterone (Free) , Serum (Equilibrium Ultrafiltration) With Total Testosterone
    -Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA)
    -Thyroid Profile


    This one is more complete but also 2x as much.
    http://www.*************.com/lab_tes...4&search=#2400

    Includes:
    Complete Blood Count w/ Differential
    Comprehensive Metabolic Profile ( includes eGFR )
    Cortisol, serum
    Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA)
    Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) Sulfate
    Estradiol
    FSH & LH
    Hemoglobin (Hgb) A1c
    Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I)
    Lipid Profile
    Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA)
    Sex Hormone binding Globulin, Serum
    Testosterone, Free (Direct) With Total Testosterone, LC/MS-MS
    Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH) and Free T4
    Tri-iodothyronine (T3), Free, Serum
    Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy

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    So i dont need to check prolactin, estrogen etc??:S
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    You could do the Hormone test for males - the first one lov posted, Then add the 'Amenorrhea Profile' blood test, it will include FSH, LH, and Prolactin.

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    Estradiol = estrogen

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    Not only should you not be cycling.This is a real BAD 2nd cycle. And get use too not being able too get it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Clomid, Nolva and HCG ?? HCG is used during cycle and/or pre-PCT... never during PCT.

    You really look like you dont know what you are doing...

    You really need BW to find out whats going on...

    19 years old... geezzzz
    Rich piana use hcg in pct 3000+ iu's eod so yes its used as pct

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    I went to the doctor today. he will check my testestorone prolactin rbc and a little more. but he wont check for estrogen he told me that everyone has estrogen:S

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolgas12 View Post
    Rich piana use hcg in pct 3000+ iu's eod so yes its used as pct
    Did you call him up and ask him??

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    let us know what the doc says im interested to know also

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