what does one think of my AAS cycle dosages aswell as my pct and it's doses?? Thanks

[NACH3]

Currently I'm on a cutting stack consisting of test prop, primo and anavar. Are these doses to high, not high enough , etc??
Test prop - .75 mgs ed 525 mgs a wk(12 wks)
Primo. - .90 mgs ed 630 mgs a wk(12 wks)
Anavar - 60 mgs ed started wk 6(runnin til wk 12)
I'm 30 yrs old, 5'10" 180-185lbs now(BF% is between 7-9% the latter being a lil high) when I started cycle I weighed about 165lbs, BF% was 10.9%...
I would like to get that between 6-7% BF%...I've made great gains, no bloat, hard muscle... All I was lookin for!
First off I'm gonna run 500iu x 2 a wk(every 3.5 days X 2 a wk) and starting the hCG wk 7 thru 12 up to pct but not into pct. 5 wks at 500iu X 2 a wk... Sound sufficient??
PCT is clomid 75/75/50/50 with nolvadex at 40/40/30/20, this sound good with what I'm running??
Also been taking Aromasin 25 mgs ed... Split in 2 12.5 doses ed... No sides of gyno... hCG for mimicking LH/FSH...for suppressing Putuitary Axis??How can I keep my labido where it's at, I don't want to just fall off! Any ideas? Thanks and much appreciated!

[Unrealone]

Currently I'm on a cutting stack consisting of test prop, primo and anavar. Are these doses to high, not high enough , etc??
Test prop - .75 mgs ed 525 mgs a wk(12 wks)
Primo. - .90 mgs ed 630 mgs a wk(12 wks)
Anavar - 60 mgs ed started wk 6(runnin til wk 12)
I'm 30 yrs old, 5'10" 180-185lbs now(BF% is between 7-9% the latter being a lil high) when I started cycle I weighed about 165lbs, BF% was 10.9%...
I would like to get that between 6-7% BF%...I've made great gains, no bloat, hard muscle... All I was lookin for!
First off I'm gonna run 500iu x 2 a wk(every 3.5 days X 2 a wk) and starting the hCG wk 7 thru 12 up to pct but not into pct. 5 wks at 500iu X 2 a wk... Sound sufficient??
PCT is clomid 75/75/50/50 with nolvadex at 40/40/30/20, this sound good with what I'm running??
Also been taking Aromasin 25 mgs ed... Split in 2 12.5 doses ed... No sides of gyno... hCG for mimicking LH/FSH...for suppressing Putuitary Axis??How can I keep my labido where it's at, I don't want to just fall off! Any ideas? Thanks and much appreciated!

how long have you been on this cycle? or are you talking about another cycle that brought on these results?

[NACH3]

Just about 7 wks

[NACH3]

Just about 7 wks

this cycle alone and I also forgot to mention on my post how long I've been workin out = about 10 yrs off and on but on for last 5 consistently...

[JDP88]

everybody's going to tell you something different but only you know your body and what works best for you. some disagree with the way I run my cycle but I've never experienced any sides except my sac tightening and being excessively horney lol...

Libido issues are most common in pct, its a given sometimes. My advice get some ed tabs for that month.

now with that being said,
have you ever used primo? I hear its kind of on the slower side, but with no water or sides usually present. which makes it a safe and steady choic but test prop is fast acting... Most try to keep the cycles on an ester that matches the properties of the AA.

You always have options, for example... I don't use AIs unless i have a side, which ive been lucky so far, i only use nolva and hgc for pct, as clomid is in same category, although serving different purposes. I also either run the test at a minimum to avoid shutdown, or run it very high depending on what other compounds are present. But thats just me...

What other compounds do you have experience with if you don't mind me asking?

[NACH3]

everybody's going to tell you something different but only you know your body and what works best for you. some disagree with the way I run my cycle but I've never experienced any sides except my sac tightening and being excessively horney lol...

Libido issues are most common in pct, its a given sometimes. My advice get some ed tabs for that month.

now with that being said,
have you ever used primo? I hear its kind of on the slower side, but with no water or sides usually present. which makes it a safe and steady choic but test prop is fast acting... Most try to keep the cycles on an ester that matches the properties of the AA.

You always have options, for example... I don't use AIs unless i have a side, which ive been lucky so far, i only use nolva and hgc for pct, as clomid is in same category, although serving different purposes. I also either run the test at a minimum to avoid shutdown, or run it very high depending on what other compounds are present. But thats just me...

What other compounds do you have experience with if you don't mind me asking?

Yes I've used primo before. Actually it was basically the same cycle at lower doses! Exception of currently pinnin ed w/test prop and primo, b4 I would be more conservative w/the test as I ran it at 300-400 tops b4 and eod pinin, the difference in dose of primo as we'll b4 being tops 350-400 also... So the only difference is that in pinin ed and runnin test prop at over 500(500-550 weekly and primo over 600(600-650 tops)mgs wkly... Really that's only difference?? Horny as he'll too... Lmao but during PCT is my labido gonna go down hill?? If so what can I use?

[NACH3]

Yes I've used primo before. Actually it was basically the same cycle at lower doses! Exception of currently pinnin ed w/test prop and primo, b4 I would be more conservative w/the test as I ran it at 300-400 tops b4 and eod pinin, the difference in dose of primo as we'll b4 being tops 350-400 also... So the only difference is that in pinin ed and runnin test prop at over 500(500-550 weekly and primo over 600(600-650 tops)mgs wkly... Really that's only difference?? Horny as he'll too... Lmao but during PCT is my labido gonna go down hill?? If so what can I use?

I'm 30 and have only run this cycle a few times(summer shreddin) but definitely gained more muscle this time waist isnt 28 in like last time it's like 30-31" but still have 5 wks left!

[JDP88]

After you hit 6%, do you have any othrr possible goals in mind? Bulk and cut again or just cruise where your at?

I wanna have a feel for your mindset so i can give you best advice...

[Cuz]

7% bodyfat? I doubt that you are thaf lean but cycle seems ok.
UGL anavar?
Never ran Primo but I'd run 800mg at least
Should run hcg throuhout entire cycle at 500 iu a week

Cycle history?

[JDP88]

as far as your libido, if you're really concerned which you seem, keep your plan now (nolva, clomid aromasin and hgc) all on pct. which is the only time I use them. They do have there places in cycles but its so case by case i cant explain it all. But I dont recommended using ai on cycle unless you have complications and need too, why add something to your body if you're fine, and i only use hgc for pct. but some people tell you I'm full of shit, some will tell you I'm right. unless you're having an issue, SOME things are a preference. Some things are a rule. obey the general rules and figure out what works best for you.

[JDP88]

Cialis or vlagra, medium dose for weeks 2-3 do the job for me. it's all about stabilizing your levels, the faster that happens, better off you are. some people don't need ed at all, some people can't get it up for 6 months after a cycle. Its very case specific, depending on your body in your cycle.

[NACH3]

After you hit 6%, do you have any othrr possible goals in mind? Bulk and cut again or just cruise where your at?

I wanna have a feel for your mindset so i can give you best advice...

More like cruise where at until winter maybe do mass stack..... Then cut again but don't think I need to in winter but I prob should to keep my gains right reload Deload phases???

[NACH3]

7% bodyfat? I doubt that you are thaf lean but cycle seems ok.
UGL anavar?
Never ran Primo but I'd run 800mg at least
Shouldn run hcg throuhout entire cycle at 500 iu a week

Cycle history?

Thanks for checking me bro...I don't plan on running the hCG til week 7 which just started or is about to start ... Runnin hCG for last 4/5 weeks at 500iu twice a wk! I have heard of as goin as high as 1000+ mgs if primo so may up it to 700 mgs ( 100 mgs ed) sounds nice?? Sound about right and stay at Test prop 525mgs which I have been on top of since end of wk 2 no higher??
Previous cycle has been same without stacking for mass in winterish time but gave only ever ran this cycle at Lower doses and just started Ababolics bout 2 yrs ago at zgd 28...UGL = oral then yes but not understanding UGL for some reason??

[NACH3]

as far as your libido, if you're really concerned which you seem, keep your plan now (nolva, clomid aromasin and hgc) all on pct. which is the only time I use them. They do have there places in cycles but its so case by case i cant explain it all. But I dont recommended using ai on cycle unless you have complications and need too, why add something to your body if you're fine, and i only use hgc for pct. but some people tell you I'm full of shit, some will tell you I'm right. unless you're having an issue, SOME things are a preference. Some things are a rule. obey the general rules and figure out what works best for you.

I'm taking stane for precuation gyno bloat etc ... I hear ya though it's up to the persons body not what everyone else does !

[Back In Black]

as far as your libido, if you're really concerned which you seem, keep your plan now (nolva, clomid aromasin and hgc) all on pct. which is the only time I use them. They do have there places in cycles but its so case by case i cant explain it all. But I dont recommended using ai on cycle unless you have complications and need too, why add something to your body if you're fine, and i only use hgc for pct. but some people tell you I'm full of shit, some will tell you I'm right. unless you're having an issue, SOME things are a preference. Some things are a rule. obey the general rules and figure out what works best for you.

Cialis or vlagra, medium dose for weeks 2-3 do the job for me. it's all about stabilizing your levels, the faster that happens, better off you are. some people don't need ed at all, some people can't get it up for 6 months after a cycle. Its very case specific, depending on your body in your cycle.

everybody's going to tell you something different but only you know your body and what works best for you. some disagree with the way I run my cycle but I've never experienced any sides except my sac tightening and being excessively horney lol...

Libido issues are most common in pct, its a given sometimes. My advice get some ed tabs for that month.

now with that being said,
have you ever used primo? I hear its kind of on the slower side, but with no water or sides usually present. which makes it a safe and steady choic but test prop is fast acting... Most try to keep the cycles on an ester that matches the properties of the AA.

You always have options, for example... I don't use AIs unless i have a side, which ive been lucky so far, i only use nolva and hgc for pct, as clomid is in same category, although serving different purposes. I also either run the test at a minimum to avoid shutdown, or run it very high depending on what other compounds are present. But thats just me...

What other compounds do you have experience with if you don't mind me asking?

Considering you just started your first cycle and were asking if you could do tren only, I'm amazed at these comments making you sound like you are a seasoned user?!?!

[NACH3]

Cialis or vlagra, medium dose for weeks 2-3 do the job for me. it's all about stabilizing your levels, the faster that happens, better off you are. some people don't need ed at all, some people can't get it up for 6 months after a cycle. Its very case specific, depending on your body in your cycle.

I see... Confession time - I used to use drugs ( opiates and cok... Was my thing ) so that might have made me a different case already and landed in the ICU AFTER flipping car 6X into a house... So drugs bad for sperm count but gotta find out w/ my blood work! I still want a kid so getting back to normal fast as possible is all I'm about(& have an endo in family...
So Viagra or cialis... Def gonna try that but I'm horny as hell now knock on wood...lol - been clean about 5 yrs now, too!

[NACH3]

7% bodyfat? I doubt that you are thaf lean but cycle seems ok.
UGL anavar?
Never ran Primo but I'd run 800mg at least
Shouldn run hcg throuhout entire cycle at 500 iu a week

Cycle history?

Cycle history has been test prop as base, Deca , and primo for most part...Cuz gotta Q for ya UGL = u got legit.....---- ? And I didn't plan on runnin my hCG till about 4-5 wks before pct that's why @ 500iu twice a wk to jump start recovery then stop hCG...
For PCT of clomid 75/75:50/50 and Nolva @ 40/40/20/20... Should I still be takin Stain during pct too? What ya think my man? Thanks and much appreciated!!!

[NACH3]

Considering you just started your first cycle and were asking if you could do tren only, I'm amazed at these comments making you sound like you are a seasoned user?!?!

Back In Black it sounds good what he is spewing... At least sounds intelligent! What your opinion? I only bring this up because the info mostly checks out but when ya said a first time Tren only cycle... That got me thinking like you now... !?!? Confused but not, if that makes sense! Just wanted to see how you felt about what was said in the post on his part, I'm just tryin to get the best feed back possible... Ya know! Thanks much appreciated!!!

[Cuz]

Gotta agree with BIB there. You can awlays depend on a vet or mods advice around here.

"UGL" simply means underground lab

If your var is pharm grade 60mg ed would be a little high side but if its UGL it would be on the low side.

Since you have already started all of this its a little late to ask about dosages. It takes years to dial your doses in. I can't help with bit they are not overly high or low so sounds ok

Ai looks good and pct looks good

Your libido will drop indefinately. Nothing you can do until your nat test comes back
As far as test p goes I'd just do 150mg eod.

I have no experience with primo...wouldn't waste my money on it. Way to expensive to run enough to see results imo.

[Unrealone]

its been a while since ive seen someone gain 15-20lbs and drop 3-4% bf in 7 weeks... you have some pics for us? thats more than impressive , imo.

[JDP88]

Me and my brother share a place, as well as a computer, he hopped on lastnight to check up on a post i made as bout my possible abcess. Hes doing doing this for years and has helped me out recently. I just started my first cycle but hes been on juice since college. Sorry for the confusion. Ill make him a profile, hes lazy like that sometimes lol

[Back In Black]

Yes, get him to make a profile. Thanks.

[NACH3]

Gotta agree with BIB there. You can awlays depend on a vet or mods advice around here.

"UGL" simply means underground lab

If your var is pharm grade 60mg ed would be a little high side but if its UGL it would be on the low side.

Since you have already started all of this its a little late to ask about dosages. It takes years to dial your doses in. I can't help with bit they are not overly high or low so sounds ok

Ai looks good and pct looks good

Your libido will drop indefinately. Nothing you can do until your nat test comes back
As far as test p goes I'd just do 150mg eod.

I have no experience with primo...wouldn't waste my money on it. Way to expensive to run enough to see results imo.

Thanks for the reply Cuz I totally understand what ur sayin though about dialing in the rite doses etc... Much appreciated...

[JDP84]

Its me. Im josh and my little bros john. I was on his late lastnight to clear everything up. Now, i skimmed thru and i dont see he mentioned any goal of a 20lb gain, just drop 3-4% bodyfat. In my experience, doing both at the exact same time is not realistic, or atleast easy, especially in such a short period which is why most build and then cut, obviously.one or the other is, but my experience with tren "A", it is very easy to shread 3-4% in 6-8 wks. If not much longer. i do use a higher dose then most, usually 100ed. but done a gram a week. But anyways, I think it was just a misunderstanding. Im sorry for not being clearer.

Ill get some pics up soon. After i workout tomorrow.

[JDP84]

It crossed my mind, theres this guy i spoke to who uses a keto insulin approach which i think is DANGEROUS but he consumes 50-100 carbs post workout prior to 10 iu injection and is able to make huge gains without the fat accumulation, now with some cardio and leaning compounds, i "IMAGINE" you would gain 20lbs and could "POSSIBLY" drop few % in BF...???

Im just looking for an input as im curious, not to butt in, it just crossed my mind and pertains to the goal above. I have no actual experience with insulin and have always broken my keto when attempted but im condsidering this with alot more carbs. theoretically, i imagine its definitely not safe, but possibe in such a short time???

[NACH3]

its been a while since ive seen someone gain 15-20lbs and drop 3-4% bf in 7 weeks... you have some pics for us? thats more than impressive , imo.

I got the pics I just can't figure out how to put em on the page Unrealone

[JDP84]

Nach3: congratulations on staying away from it, i was on opiates for years after nerve damage from a gsw. Its hard, temptation is always there, as i just want to commend you. Keep it up!

Now, your doing fine, stick to what your doing and know, educate yourself, ask for experiences... but sometimes you have to experiment with in reason to get what works best for you. which is what I was hinting at before all the confusion. If you do find yourself in that direction, there's a lot of good material out there, especially books. forums have there place but can be confusing... theres no one right idea out there.

[NACH3]

Nach3: congratulations on staying away from it, i was on opiates for years after nerve damage from a gsw. Its hard, temptation is always there, as i just want to commend you. Keep it up!

Now, your doing fine, stick to what your doing and know, educate yourself, ask for experiences... but sometimes you have to experiment with in reason to get what works best for you. which is what I was hinting at before all the confusion. If you do find yourself in that direction, there's a lot of good material out there, especially books. forums have there place but can be confusing... theres no one right idea out there.

Thanks JDP84 much appreciated and I assume your doin well too! Temp is always around but as I found out it's who u surround yourself with also ... So I appreciate ya reaching out... Also I just got this I phone 5S and tryin to put some pics up for all but Unrealone has asked and I can't figure it the Fack out ... Lol help please! Thanks again and very much appreciated!

[JDP84]

I haven't posted the picture on here yet, cause I wanna wait till after my workout when I'm swole lol...

imagine you can just go to your gallery, copy it, then paste it in reply

[NACH3]

Its me. Im josh and my little bros john. I was on his late lastnight to clear everything up. Now, i skimmed thru and i dont see he mentioned any goal of a 20lb gain, just drop 3-4% bodyfat. In my experience, doing both at the exact same time is not realistic, or atleast easy, especially in such a short period which is why most build and then cut, obviously.one or the other is, but my experience with tren "A", it is very easy to shread 3-4% in 6-8 wks. If not much longer. i do use a higher dose then most, usually 100ed. but done a gram a week. But anyways, I think it was just a misunderstanding. Im sorry for not being clearer.

Ill get some pics up soon. After i workout tomorrow.

How do ya post pics from your photos, b/c I want to do the same? I'm an idiot when it comes yo doin that kinda sh-t...lol I def gained at least 15 pounds and my BF% was 10.9 on a Bod Pod like 2 months ago and I'd say yeah between 7-9% tops with 5 wks left waist went from 33 to 30 & starting to shred nice I gotta figure out how to show these thangs.... My stomach got cut open for Ventral hernia 4 times so they cut thru all the muscle down the middle still looks good... My obliques and serratus is showin good for wk 7... IMO gotta get these pics up

[JDP84]

go to reply to the post, you'll see an icon with a little tree in it. click on it and upload the photo

[JDP84]

(Homebrew)

I just tried it and it works for me

[NACH3]

I got the pics I just can't figure out how to put em on the page Unrealone

I'll get them to ya by tomorrow or later when someone else knows how to do it for me... Sorry for being a tart... But I'll def get em to ya!!

[Cuz]

I've lost track of this thread completely

[NACH3]

its been a while since ive seen someone gain 15-20lbs and drop 3-4% bf in 7 weeks... you have some pics for us? thats more than impressive , imo.

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its been a while since ive seen someone gain 15-20lbs and drop 3-4% bf in 7 weeks... you have some pics for us? thats more than impressive , imo.

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Lemme know if you got all 6 pics b/c the one w / my hand on hip sucks but I tried giving them all to ya.... This is 7 wks only

[NACH3]

I've lost track of this thread completely

Me too and I started it.... All to try and get pics for ya's... I obviously ain't no good w/phones... My bad just tryin to do myself

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[NACH3]

its been a while since ive seen someone gain 15-20lbs and drop 3-4% bf in 7 weeks... you have some pics for us? thats more than impressive , imo.

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