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Thread: 3rd cycle in 2 years...Test-E + Winnie

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    3rd cycle in 2 years...Test-E + Winnie

    I have been seriously boxing for the past 8 years. I eat a clean diet and train 6-7 days a week (twice/ day for 4 or 5 of them). My stats are 5’10 / 72kg / approx. 14% body fat. I tend to hang on to fat easily despite working extra hard and eat smart (normally 2000-2300 cals/day of 40/30/30 pro/carbs/fat split into 3 small meals and 2-3 snacks).

    I did two courses before. First a test prop only 10 week course & for my second course round 5 months ago I did a 10 week course of Test prop+Equipoise. I am 29 years old. Have been training weights/football/swimming etc... for at least 12 years.

    I now want to start my 3rd course. I am going to try and work more on seeing appreciable results on my body composition while keeping mass and also to help with my training intensity (I feel sore and sometimes lethargic with all these hard sessions). I would like to keep my 72 kg but gain muscle and lose fat so I will be around 8% or so fat with increased power. I have opted for Test E + Winstrol. I have already bought the stack and have everything in hand. I have 9 weeks worth of Test E and 8 weeks worth of Winnie.

    I was looking at a 10 week course as below:

    - Test E 500mg : Twice / Week 1
    - Test E 250mg : Twice / Weeks 2-9
    - Winstrol 50mg : ED Weeks 4-11
    - Aromasin (Exemestane) 12.5mg : EOD Weeks 2-11
    - HCG 250iu: Twice / Weeks 5-11
    - Animal pak multi vits : ED Weeks 1-15
    - Omega 3 Fish oil: Weeks 1-15
    - Chitosamine + Chondriotion + MSM: Weeks 1-15

    PCT (Start 2 week (week 11) after last Test E injection):

    - Nolva (40mg ED for 1 week then 20mg for another 3 weeks)
    - Clomid (100mg ED for 1 week then 50mg for another 3 weeks)
    - ZMA
    - Aspartic Acid Natural test booster

    I have a few questions for you comrades here I hoped you could help me with.

    1) How does the cycle look to you and what would you change (mainly dosages/times)?
    2) What should I expect differently as compared to my first course (strength/libido/mood etc..)?


    Thanks lots for your help.I read a lot but any good advice coming from the horses mouth is always appreciated .

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    Winstrol is hard on the liver and wouldn't recommend running it over 6 weeks.

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    I would run test for 12 weeks especially teste and I not a fan of Winnie either it dries out my joints.
    Also Winny last 6 weeks if you decide to.
    Next time look into anavar.
    Also run test same dose no need do a gram 1st week you would be Breyer using prop.
    Run hcg from start (it's not expensive) why not be safe
    Otherwise looks fine just not a fan of winny

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    my suggestion is not to front-load the test. grab some test prop if you really think you need a kick-start. use the extra test-e to get 10 weeks out of the cycle at a minimum. Test-e doesn't really kick in until week 4 or 5. Never used winnie so i can't really express an opinion on it.

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    also, be sure to get blood work pre-cycle and after 6 weeks or so. Watch your estrogen. 12.5 on stane EOD is probably a little light. I did 12.5 twice a day on 500mg test/wk with good result.

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    Many thanks guys!

    I have just had a change of plans and will post a new thread with a new cycle.

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