question on mexican steroids and something else..

[steve0807]

height 510
weight 175
age 27
BF 9-10%
experience lifting - 12-13 years

So ive recently bought a bottle of DMZ oral tabs. Ive been researching the product as well as PH's in general for a couple weeks now. And based on all the info Ive gathered, PH's in general dont really seem worth it, my main hesitation was the toxicity involved. So, Ive had to fight my impulse on moving forward with it and will be returning the bottle.

I figure I am better off just doing a real cycle, it seems as if the cons of PH's as well as the pros are just inferior to real juice.

So, now I am trying to wade through the obstacles involved in getting some real gear.

But first let me say to the retarded ass backwards government

First question - Why is it that so many people on here suggest against PHs yet the website itself advocates them ? Do they provide safer and close to or just as effective PH's on here ? Or is it because simply it's legal, and they can make $ selling them ? My instincts tell me the latter is true..

It's especially confusing seeing as how i have found articles on here saying its not the best idea to run an oral only cycle, yet they sell them..

Anyhow, I'm very strongly leaning towards getting injectables, and I'd prefer a shorter cycle as adversed to a longer one, and a more modest one versus a hardcore one. I'll be plenty happy with a 10-15 lb gain.

And so my two main issues are getting my hands on them, as well as what a good cycle for beginners may be. (Yes, I am reading the stickies on a daily basis now). I have a good grasp on dieting, and I know what I am doing in the gym, so I dont have to worry about those two things.

I'll be heading back to my second home in Mehico soon, and I am aware you can buy roids right over the counter there. In my experience living there, Ive obviously seen it's a very corrupt country. Which leads me to my questions - Are there any steroids worth buying there ? Can they be trusted ? Anyone have any experience with buying juice there ??

I have no connects to get juice anywhere else, and buying online seems like a bad idea all around. So, if theres an opportunity to just do it in Mexico id like to take advantage.

If the juice there cant be trusted, is it a good idea to at least pick up a PCT or anything else I need to run on a cycle and get that end handled ?

Thanks peeps.

Take care,

Steve

[dk94]

Are you running the cycle there or smuggling it back? i wouldnt bring juice across the border, the punishment far out weighs the crime. Gear bought at pharmacies is legit, the farther out of tourist areas you go the cheaper it is. If you buy in Cancun it will be more than anything you buy here but we cant discussn specific price on the board

[Novice489]

First question - Why is it that so many people on here suggest against PHs yet the website itself advocates them ? Do they provide safer and close to or just as effective PH's on here ? Or is it because simply it's legal, and they can make $ selling them ? My instincts tell me the latter is true.
Steve

This forum is a for profit business and sponsors are the way they make $$$

Anyhow, I'm very strongly leaning towards getting injectables, and I'd prefer a shorter cycle as adversed to a longer one, and a more modest one versus a hardcore one. I'll be plenty happy with a 10-15 lb gain.

And so my two main issues are getting my hands on them, as well as what a good cycle for beginners may be.

If you haven't read it already this is a great sticky.
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[Quester]

With regard to what you can carry across the border...I don't know for sure. But, my intuition (which is strong) and my understanding of our legal system (far above average) leads me to suggest that if you obtain a prescription for self use and carry medicine prescribed, crossing the border shouldn't be a problem. You do the research and, PLEASE, share your findings, including the references.
Do remember to notify me in some way regarding any info that you post on here regarding this issue as I am not able to devote much time to anything online. If you wish to have help in this issue, friend me and I'll do my best to help with the workload in regard to the research about the legality of this particular aspect of your endeavor.
Thanks and good luck,
Quester

[MuscleInk]

Don't confuse capitalism with heathy/safe products. Look at the OxyElite that was so widely touted as an effective thermogenic which caused liver damage and liver failure in several consumers. The product, once widely endorsed and advertised, is now banned.

I personally wouldn't use gear from Mexico. I've seen enough cases of local and (nearly) systemic infections to stay clear of that stuff. There are enough local opportunities in the US (or wherever you may live) to avoid trafficking or importing gear across international borders.

Many newbies are frustrated by what appears to be a supply shortage. The reality is, it takes a bit of time to find a reliable source but realize, these are illegal drugs in many countries so of course it is going to require some effort. Eventually you will find what you need - just be patient. Pretty much everyone struggles initially but if others have found local sources, you can too.

I've only traveled internationally with gear twice. On both occasions, I had a script. On one occasion I was traveling to a country where corruption is common and I knew paying the customs officials would expedite my entry. I do not recommend transporting across borders. Others may say they have done it successfully but in general, rarely will I take those kinds of risks. For local/domestic travel, I ship supplies to my final destination.

[dk94]

Don't confuse capitalism with heathy/safe products. Look at the OxyElite that was so widely touted as an effective thermogenic which caused liver damage and liver failure in several consumers. The product, once widely endorsed and advertised, is now banned.

I personally wouldn't use gear from Mexico. I've seen enough cases of local and (nearly) systemic infections to stay clear of that stuff. There are enough local opportunities in the US (or wherever you may live) to avoid trafficking or importing gear across international borders.

Many newbies are frustrated by what appears to be a supply shortage. The reality is, it takes a bit of time to find a reliable source but realize, these are illegal drugs in many countries so of course it is going to require some effort. Eventually you will find what you need - just be patient. Pretty much everyone struggles initially but if others have found local sources, you can too.

I've only traveled internationally with gear twice. On both occasions, I had a script. On one occasion I was traveling to a country where corruption is common and I knew paying the customs officials would expedite my entry. I do not recommend transporting across borders. Others may say they have done it successfully but in general, rarely will I take those kinds of risks. For local/domestic travel, I ship supplies to my final destination.

Good advice. Arent some of the products available in mexican pharmacies the same as one might obtain through a prescription? Like the organon products for example? Or are they all cheaper made mexican versions of the products?

[tectime]

I believe you have to have a script from an American doctor to bring steroids back across the border, or Mexican citizen with a script from a Mexican doctor. And if you have an American script I sure wouldn't waste it filling it in Mexico.

[bonanza93x]

no need for border crossing.. go w/ domestic UGL's

[Buster Brown]

no need for border crossing.. go w/ domestic UGL's

Just have to find the ones that are dosed correctly and aren't dirty. Chem muscle has brought a lot of attention to lab quality and what can happen to members here. If you get a second it's an older thread check it out.

[Quester]

TRT and other med programs are not that difficult to utilize here in US.

[poppz]

Organon is in mexico. Sus and deca is pretty good.

[bonanza93x]

Just have to find the ones that are dosed correctly and aren't dirty. Chem muscle has brought a lot of attention to lab quality and what can happen to members here. If you get a second it's an older thread check it out.

what PM me like to thread bro cant find it

[bonanza93x]

Just have to find the ones that are dosed correctly and aren't dirty. Chem muscle has brought a lot of attention to lab quality and what can happen to members here. If you get a second it's an older thread check it out.

what PM me like to thread bro cant find it