Primo/Test En/Dbol/Tren stack

[babak_y2666]

Hello guys.i am thinking of run this cycle for my forth cycle.my last cycle was test-deca-dbol i am looking to stack a bulking/cutting cycle for 12 weeks this is what i am planned what do you think about it guys feel free to give me your toughs

Week 1-12 500mg Primo/w
Week 1-8 625mg Test En/w
Week 1-5 40mg Dbol/w
Week 8-12 100mg Tren Acetate/ED or 400mg Tren En/w
Week 1-15 Hcg 500iu/Every 5 Day
Week (1-5 and 14-18) 10 iu Insulin

Week 15-19 PCT starts from day 106 (first week 100mg Clomid+40mg Tamoxifen-3 other week 50mg clomid+20mg tamoxifen)

my diet is going to be based on about 5000 calorie if it needed i will raise it up calorie is based 1-2-3 ratio fat-protein-carb

please no question out of this cycle line and my personal things i just want to know your toughs about this cycle and and for info i am not newbie on insulin usage
Thank you

[Shadeed]

I don't see mentioning anything about AI on cycle, also why are you stopping test eth. On week 8 and will continue primo+tren until week 12? Also any precautions against progesterone?

[Back In Black]

How about some stats? I'm guessing something is amiss if you don't want us to ask?

[NACH3]

I don't see the point in stopping ur test while continuing the primo/Tren... IMO one should keep a test base throughout entire cycle as this could hinder your PCT! U can also up your primo dose between 600-800mgs a wk... As I've heard of people going up into the 1000 a wk(but more is not always better as you already know! Also like BackinBlack states what AI are you planning on running during cyc??

[babak_y2666]

I don't see mentioning anything about AI on cycle, also why are you stopping test eth. On week 8 and will continue primo+tren until week 12? Also any precautions against progesterone?

i didn't get lots of water retention or have sterogen sensitivity till now in last cycles thats why.but i have letrozole in hand if gyno starts to kick in i will start with 0.25mg and raise it up till gyno moves out

[babak_y2666]

I don't see the point in stopping ur test while continuing the primo/Tren... IMO one should keep a test base throughout entire cycle as this could hinder your PCT! U can also up your primo dose between 600-800mgs a wk... As I've heard of people going up into the 1000 a wk(but more is not always better as you already know! Also like BackinBlack states what AI are you planning on running during cyc??

thank for reply man.i can't affrod more primobolan at this time and its my first time using it
i was thinking about to cut the test in 8th week to remove aromataze drug from the cycle and then tren can help remove fat and waters stored.do you think its not good idea?

[NACH3]

If you cut the test e out in wk 8(IMO I wouldn't do so) due to aromatization as you say(by stopping it would be worse for your body as it has already aromatized and by stopping b4 PCT this could cause a bunch of different things to go wrong, including PCT). And the whole point of PCT Is for your body to recover/& restore itself to its normal & natural levels(for everything)!!But Your body has already started to aromatize(after your first or second pin anyway)therefore the need for an AI is extremely beneficial & needed.... Keeping your estrogen levels more balanced(this is why I'm a fan of aromasin, which actually has a "komakazi effect")! It's a suicidal AI that attacks excess estrogen or most of it! So, I wouldn't stop your test E as one almost always uses a test base throughout entire cycle ... If you were worried about aromatization than you should know that it's already started once you start your cycle, therefore one must run hCG/an AI throughout cycle... As this will help with your PCT when you start it! Makin sense? You also say u have letro on hand(sounds like your not very prone to Gyno but why have it if your not using it, ya know. Better to be safe than sorry later! IMO - continue your test e throughout cycle but start using an AI as soon as possible!! Good luck bro!! Plus Tren will cut you up anyway removing any water retention or bloat as well... Again good luck my man!

[babak_y2666]

If you cut the test e out in wk 8(IMO I wouldn't do so) due to aromatization as you say(by stopping it would be worse for your body as it has already aromatized and by stopping b4 PCT this could cause a bunch of different things to go wrong, including PCT). And the whole point of PCT Is for your body to recover/& restore itself to its normal & natural levels(for everything)!!But Your body has already started to aromatize(after your first or second pin anyway)therefore the need for an AI is extremely beneficial & needed.... Keeping your estrogen levels more balanced(this is why I'm a fan of aromasin, which actually has a "komakazi effect")! It's a suicidal AI that attacks excess estrogen or most of it! So, I wouldn't stop your test E as one almost always uses a test base throughout entire cycle ... If you were worried about aromatization than you should know that it's already started once you start your cycle, therefore one must run hCG/an AI throughout cycle... As this will help with your PCT when you start it! Makin sense? You also say u have letro on hand(sounds like your not very prone to Gyno but why have it if your not using it, ya know. Better to be safe than sorry later! IMO - continue your test e throughout cycle but start using an AI as soon as possible!! Good luck bro!! Plus Tren will cut you up anyway removing any water retention or bloat as well... Again good luck my man!

thank you for the answer it was very helpful and useful information for me what do you suggest for AI through cycle and how much? aromasin in expensive here not worth costs about 40$ for 10x :/

[NACH3]

No worries bro... Glad to help! Aromasin is way cheaper than Arimidex... If you have letro you could use it... I just like aromasin b/c of how it works... It's a suicidal AI THAT targets Estrogen like others but aromasin has that kamakazi effect... And works well for me... But everyone is different! A lot of people swear by either Adex or Aromasin for most part w/some that like letro! Keep this thread open as you may get more feedback from other users! Everyone's info may differ to a certain degree with the same overall big picture, ya know! Take it all in and then obviously see what your body likes b/c there can be sides to anything we take... Remember that! Good luck bro!
Aromasin dose -12.5 - 25 mgs ed I'm runnin 525mg of prop a wk/Primo 700mgs a wk/anavar 60mgs ed so my Aromasin dose us 25mg ed and that's been great... hCG 500iu twice a wk - tadadafil 5mg ed or eod(good for prostate and HR), milk thistle for liver...
And read the sticky "aromasin the underdosed AI! It is very knowledgeable!!

[babak_y2666]

No worries bro... Glad to help! Aromasin is way cheaper than Arimidex... If you have letro you could use it... I just like aromasin b/c of how it works... It's a suicidal AI THAT targets Estrogen like others but aromasin has that kamakazi effect... And works well for me... But everyone is different! A lot of people swear by either Adex or Aromasin for most part w/some that like letro! Keep this thread open as you may get more feedback from other users! Everyone's info may differ to a certain degree with the same overall big picture, ya know! Take it all in and then obviously see what your body likes b/c there can be sides to anything we take... Remember that! Good luck bro!
Aromasin dose -12.5 - 25 mgs ed I'm runnin 525mg of prop a wk/Primo 700mgs a wk/anavar 60mgs ed so my Aromasin dose us 25mg ed and that's been great... hCG 500iu twice a wk - tadadafil 5mg ed or eod(good for prostate and HR), milk thistle for liver...
And read the sticky "aromasin the underdosed AI! It is very knowledgeable!!

thank you man <3

i heard that liver supports like milk thistle lowers the result of your cycle and its better not to use them during cycle what do you think about this?

[NACH3]

If ur running an oral you can also run NAC WHICH I would have rathered...

[Sfla80]

Besides no stats and dropping test for 4 weeks while running tren.

Did Noone else notice he's undecided on whether to run 700mg tren a 400mg tren e? Huge difference no?

[NACH3]

Besides no stats and dropping test for 4 weeks while running tren.

Did Noone else notice he's undecided on whether to run 700mg tren a 400mg tren e? Huge difference no?

Didn't know that... He's gonna run Tren without test??? Yes huge difference... He just asked if he should drop test, which I said no as one should always have a test base when running other compounds... Big no no IMO!! Good catch sfla80!!! And AI ?'s to me... ThAts my bad for not catching that! Thanks sfla80!!!

[Cuz]

Milk thistle is good for lighting your charcoal grille. Burns very well. NAC is what you want for liver support

[Cuz]

Your cycle needs a lot of work. Your dropping test....big diff in tren volume?? Makes no sense to drop test. Too many compounds to compensate something else.

[NACH3]

X2... This is what I have been trying to convey to him, makes no sense to drop test then run Tren period! Agree?? I too, agree w/the NAC instead of of the milk thistle as I thought I mentioned that above...Thanks Cuz your knowledge is always greatly appreciated!!

[qscgugcsq]

I dont see the point in adding primo if tren is in the mix...

Does tren will overpower primo??

I woud see masteron instead.