Abodmen njury

**middleeasternmuscle** · 06-17-2014, 12:22 AM

Hey guys so 3 months ago was getting a tattoo and tensed my abs the whole time because the pan was intense on the neck. after that had sharp ab pan n my right abdomen and t kept getting worst till the point where haven't been able to lift for 2 months ... still lifting but very very light. docs did x rays and sad no hernia and told m to just lay off the heavy weights. Would deca and gh help m recover. cant think of anything else now . The pain flares up randomly at times .... most days if i dont put pressure on it ill b fine.

meant to spell abdomen in the title sorry

**lovbyts** · 06-17-2014, 12:57 AM

NO, you need to find out whats wrong. Maybe you caused a hernia or ripped something. AAS is not the answer

**middleeasternmuscle** · 06-17-2014, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

NO, you need to find out whats wrong. Maybe you caused a hernia or ripped something. AAS is not the answer

went to docs several times they cant find out anything wrong

**fit2bOld** · 06-17-2014, 05:52 AM

X-rays only show bones on tissue.
You need a MRI
Steroids don't repair injuries.

**lovbyts** · 06-17-2014, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by middleeasternmuscle

went to docs several times they cant find out anything wrong

Keep looking, something is wrong and you cant fix what you cant find. Wouldnt be the 1st time or the last doctors dont want to look for the problem.

**Times Roman** · 06-17-2014, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

X-rays only show bones on tissue.
You need a MRI
Steroids don't repair injuries.

correct. Xrays only show hard matter. you have a soft tissue injury, and an Xray will not show this type of damage. CT Scan or MRI is the ticket. Get in your quacks face and demand a better diagnosis

**middleeasternmuscle** · 06-17-2014, 03:27 PM

Hmmmm ok ill ask for an mri thanks guys oh ps i did the ct scan as well

**Bonaparte** · 06-17-2014, 04:18 PM

So...you blew your chance for gainful employment AND injured yourself in the process? Wow.

**middleeasternmuscle** · 06-19-2014, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

So...you blew your chance for gainful employment AND injured yourself in the process? Wow.

Everyone has tattoos these days buddy lol. Doctors/ nurses/ engineers ...etc invalid statement

**middleeasternmuscle** · 06-19-2014, 01:23 AM

Well went to the doctor and once again paid for a man in a suit to touch my stomach and tell me nothings wrong. Ask for an MRI .... he told me the only way they do MRI's is if you have like liver damage or internal spine bleeding or some crap I dont remember exactly what it was but it was something that will prob never happen to me. So he gave me some Vicodin and muscle relaxers.

**NACH3** · 06-19-2014, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by middleeasternmuscle

Well went to the doctor and once again paid for a man in a suit to touch my stomach and tell me nothings wrong. Ask for an MRI .... he told me the only way they do MRI's is if you have like liver damage or internal spine bleeding or some crap I dont remember exactly what it was but it was something that will prob never happen to me. So he gave me some Vicodin and muscle relaxers.

That's Bulls---, IMO! Dr 's don't help like they used too, only when you've already torn something or actually have a hernia!!
I also, had this problem... After flipping my car 6x into a house( after my 3rd R shoulder Surgery) I landed in a coma for over a month and a half... Having flat lined twice... They had my stomach open for two weeks in the ICU - after I left the hospital not healed(14" scar on stomach/tracheotomy/all L ribs broken/& shattered my L heal/oh and broke my R scapula)
But the point is I had a ventral hernia(as stated above by T.M and lovbyts, & fit2BOld - stated MRI/ CT SCAN/ but MRI w/contrast is way to go... Just keep goin to ER and tell them look I've had all these previous tests done - I WANT A MRI - you are entitled to one since I'm guessing u got INS...??
I ended up having to get 4 other surgeries on my stomach to put this MESH( which got infected) and had to remove in the Dr 's office w/out any lical anesthetic or anything for pain!
Just wanted to share my story as it sounds like a serious condition... Was outta training for a couple yrs due to all the surgeries!
Grateful I'm alive but could've been avoided!!
Good luck and keep us posted!!

**middleeasternmuscle** · 06-19-2014, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

That's Bulls---, IMO! Dr 's don't help like they used too, only when you've already torn something or actually have a hernia!!
I also, had this problem... After flipping my car 6x into a house( after my 3rd R shoulder Surgery) I landed in a coma for over a month and a half... Having flat lined twice... They had my stomach open for two weeks in the ICU - after I left the hospital not healed(14" scar on stomach/tracheotomy/all L ribs broken/& shattered my L heal/oh and broke my R scapula)
But the point is I had a ventral hernia(as stated above by T.M and lovbyts, & fit2BOld - stated MRI/ CT SCAN/ but MRI w/contrast is way to go... Just keep goin to ER and tell them look I've had all these previous tests done - I WANT A MRI - you are entitled to one since I'm guessing u got INS...??
I ended up having to get 4 other surgeries on my stomach to put this MESH( which got infected) and had to remove in the Dr 's office w/out any lical anesthetic or anything for pain!
Just wanted to share my story as it sounds like a serious condition... Was outta training for a couple yrs due to all the surgeries!
Grateful I'm alive but could've been avoided!!
Good luck and keep us posted!!

Yea dude it was ridiculous I waited in a chair for 5 hours to get some pain meds ..... and getting a bill in the mail smh. That sounds really horrible .... couple of years with no lifting .... but mine has no bump or bulge or anything. It was just from tensing my stomach to hard during a tattoo session than finally had to quit working out when the pain kept increasing.

**NACH3** · 06-19-2014, 02:04 AM

I don't wish Pain on anyone-especially chronic pain... But still Acute( and yours is still considered acute! Yeah couldn't lift for like a yr after 1st R Shoulder surg... 2nd kept me out for about another yr... And the 3rd was only like 8 months after the 2nd and that kept me out until the car accident in 07 for close to 3 yrs... Thank God for my life and my second/third chances!!! But know ima Personal Trainer and have my body in great shape again. (Consistency is key obviously and I had to start from the beginning which I can now definitely live wit! Lol
But make sure you ask fir the MRI W/contrast as they don't always use the contrast... Just another way to raise the bill (as x-rays Are 1st then shoulda been MRI NOT CT-scan ... But either could show the defect !
What side is it on in your body?? If on R side check out your appendix bro b4 they end up bursting internally( if on R side only though)...
Where is pain localized at??
Their seems to be a definite problem?? Are ya on the east coast... If do go up the Rothman Indstitute it U of Penn??? Jefferson is another good one too!

**middleeasternmuscle** · 06-19-2014, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

I don't wish Pain on anyone-especially chronic pain... But still Acute( and yours is still considered acute!
But make sure you ask fir the MRI W/contrast as they don't always use the contrast... Just another way to raise the bill (as x-rays Are 1st then shoulda been MRI NOT CT-scan ... But either could show the defect !
What side is it on in your body?? If on R side check out your appendix bro b4 they end up bursting internally( if on R side only though)...
Where is pain localized at??

ahhh gotcha. Yea just the right abdomen sometimes the pain is the upper ab region on sometimes on the lower ab .... not the groin area just the by the belly button. A lot of people say Its ruptured or inflammation and will heal but takes a long time to heal since your abs are using in every movement pretty much. Docs did the ct can to make sure it wasnt appendix and that came back clear. I know its muscle pain because I just took a vicodin with the muscle relaxer and the pain is all gone .

**NACH3** · 06-19-2014, 02:18 AM

That's good to know... Just to be safe get second opinion bro!!! Can't hurt that's for sure and bring all pics and tests(ie; CT-Scan, and the useless X-Rays) do you don't have to go thru their protocol all over again?? Keep me posted and Goid luck!!

**middleeasternmuscle** · 06-19-2014, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

That's good to know... Just to be safe get second opinion bro!!! Can't hurt that's for sure and bring all pics and tests(ie; CT-Scan, and the useless X-Rays) do you don't have to go thru their protocol all over again?? Keep me posted and Goid luck!!

Thanks bro it rally was feeling fine till yesterday when i was taking a dump and squeezed to hard and it flared up again lmao. Will do bro appreciate the help man

**NACH3** · 06-19-2014, 06:10 AM

On that note while takin a sh--.... Next time and from here out put a pillow against your stomach and hold tight as ya do ur thing! Lol not laughing at ya as I had to do this myself throught all the ventral hernia repairs... Haha
But it definitely sounds muscular but that could also weaken your abdominal area as well...
So, to be safe tell them as I stated b4 - MRI w/contrast and let them know/or bring your recent tests(I.e; x-rays/& ur CT-SCAN w/you) so their are no discrepancies!! Good luck brotha!!

**hawk14dl** · 06-19-2014, 06:40 AM

Sounds like a hernia to me. Find a new dr.

Are you aware that a hernia can become fatal?

Get that shi* checked out dude

**NACH3** · 06-19-2014, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by hawk14dl

Sounds like a hernia to me. Find a new dr.

Are you aware that a hernia can become fatal?

Get that shi* checked out dude

X2 thAts why I was tellin him to get another opinion... I had all the same side effects from my ventral hernia repairs(4 of em)...
I totally agree!

**Bonaparte** · 06-19-2014, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by middleeasternmuscle

Everyone has tattoos these days buddy lol. Doctors/ nurses/ engineers ...etc invalid statement

Not visible neck tats. Those are reserved for inmates and people with terrible judgement.

**RigPig** · 06-19-2014, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Not visible neck tats. Those are reserved for inmates and people with terrible judgement.

hahahaha, I have a visible neck tat, tribute to my brother who was killed in Afghanistan, placed there on purpose knowing I would get asked all the time what it was about. I never get sick of telling people about his sacrifice. Puts people who don’t know any better in check, its more than what we see on TV to some of us..(little off topic sorry). Also I've held a sr.management position for nearly 8 years and never has it slowed my career advancement.....terrible judgement....everyone has their own opinion on that.

**middleeasternmuscle** · 08-14-2014, 02:27 PM

Well I got down to the bottom of it and Doc says its 100% not hernia related. Its an ab tear. Said nothing I can do besides rest cause these injuries take long to heal. Im thinking of cruising on GH and a low 200 mg dose of deca to speed things up. What do you guys think. Obviously with rest and no lifting. Was thinking of doing some heavy resistance biking though to at least build up my legs