Crashed estrogen HELP please

[Ridel]

I have been running 600mg of test e and 600mg of tren e, I'm in 7th week of my 12 week cycle.
I started at 500mg each then bumped it up to 600 starting week 4.

I have been taking caber since week 4, as i had prolactin issues. Everything is good until i take AI, every time i take Aromasin dose i go from having random boners to no sex drive at all. I think I'm super sensitive to AI, i have no bloat, acne, water retention, etc. But when i start aromasin I get extremely lethargic and tired all the time.

Even at 3mg dose EOD(12.5mg prosum pharma cut into 4 pieces).

I have definitely experienced when everything is right and i feel really good and can stay at the gym all day if i want, Im more inclined to believe its low estrogen since i have dry lips, loss of libido, no wood, loss of sensitivity, night sweats, constant fatigue, lethargy, etc.

I have stopped using aromasin yesterday and i was thinking of stopping it for a week and see if i feel any difference. How can i make sure it stays in the range, so it won't go too high or too low? any

please and thank you!!

[austinite]

How can i make sure it stays in the range

Blood work.

[SeatownSharksFan]

Sure it's not just the tren ?

[MuscleInk]

Blood work.

As Austinite said, blood work, blood work, blood work. Otherwise you're just guessing.

[Times Roman]

I was running some gear, and thought my E was too high. Had some blood work, and it was at the high end of the normal range...

.....you never really can tell unless you get the blood work done.

You can order it online too.

Does the sponsor do this (blood work) or do you have to do the entire program?

[Times Roman]

Sure it's not just the tren?

it could be that too.

I'm a low dose tren kinda guy for this and other reasons..

[Spartans09]

I am very sensitive to Aromasin as well. I don't know how people can take 25mg/day on any cycle. I can't take 25 mg in two weeks without crashing E during cycle.

[Ridel]

Blood work.

so get E2 and prolactin.

[NACH3]

Interesting to know guys... After reading the thread "Aromasin The Underdosed AI" I felt like the 25mg dose is pretty normal...
Although now I'm in wk 10 of my 12 wks cycle and gave just started to feel more lethargy,(dry lips as I've been in the sun for days at the pool and got burnt...lol) , fatigue, etc...
But my father has just returned home from hospital after breaking his neck do stress is way up, doin a lot more runnin around as taking care of him too!! Opinion??

[austinite]

so get E2 and prolactin.

At least, yes.

[NACH3]

I was running some gear, and thought my E was too high. Had some blood work, and it was at the high end of the normal range...

.....you never really can tell unless you get the blood work done.

You can order it online too.

Does the sponsor do this (blood work) or do you have to do the entire program?

T.M.,
Hey my man... Gotta ? Regarding getting Blood Work done ... Is their a way to get it done w/out paying a boat load... I have INS, but was wondering if AR-R does anything w/blood work?
Or is their a better way/place that pays for it, etc...
Just wondering since I live in Cali but am on the East Coast due to my father having broke his neck, and I'm helping him thru this time!
Or do I just go to my old Doc who will have no problem doing so?
Thanks...

[Sfla80]

T.M.,
Hey my man... Gotta ? Regarding getting Blood Work done ... Is their a way to get it done w/out paying a boat load... I have INS, but was wondering if AR-R does anything w/blood work?
Or is their a better way/place that pays for it, etc...
Just wondering since I live in Cali but am on the East Coast due to my father having broke his neck, and I'm helping him thru this time!
Or do I just go to my old Doc who will have no problem doing so?
Thanks...

Order off private MD labs....find a test that suits ur needs. I believe female hormone panel is like 70$ or so. And covers most needs. I could be wrong with price but it's pretty damn cheap.

[Spartans09]

Interesting to know guys... After reading the thread "Aromasin The Underdosed AI" I felt like the 25mg dose is pretty normal...
Although now I'm in wk 10 of my 12 wks cycle and gave just started to feel more lethargy,(dry lips as I've been in the sun for days at the pool and got burnt...lol) , fatigue, etc...
But my father has just returned home from hospital after breaking his neck do stress is way up, doin a lot more runnin around as taking care of him too!! Opinion??

That could be low E. It could also be elevated RBC and Hematocrit if you are towards the end of a cycle. Have you had any blood work recently? Elevated hematocrit can be dangerous.

[tectime]

Blood work.

Short, sweet, and exactly on point correct. The only way to really know what's going on.

[Ridel]

At least, yes.

Just went in for blood work. I'll know my

Prolactin
E2 estradiol
Free test

Levels in a week.

[Ridel]

Results are I'm. I've high estrogen and almost 0 prolactin.

Free test: >346.7 Normal 15.6-146
Estradiol: 565 Normal 0 - 172
Prolactin: 0.7 Normal 2.6- 13.1

I'm in canada so I don't know the units.

I've prosun aromasin 12.5mg tabs. How should I dose it.
Thank you

[Ridel]

Blood work.

I posted the results, please let me know. Appreciated.

[Ridel]

Anyone?

I've been taking
600mg test e
500mg tren e
Been taking 45mg oral winny from past 3 weeks.


That's it.

.5 caber twice a week

At what does should i start aromasin .

[MuscleInk]

Anyone?

I've been taking
600mg test e
500mg tren e
Been taking 45mg oral winny from past 3 weeks.

That's it.

.5 caber twice a week

At what does should i start aromasin.

Certainly hope this isn't your first cycle because that's a lot of gear.

Familiarize yourself with aromasin side effects - many mirror symptoms of low or high E:

hot flashes
fatigue
arthralgia
alopecia
alk phos elevated
HTN
headache
insomnia
diaphoresis
dizziness
pain
nausea
depression
diarrhea
osteoarthritis
dermatitis
myalgia
visual disturbance
osteoporosis
fractures
paresthesia
carpal tunnel syndrome
flu syndrome
edema
dyspnea
cough
anorexia
Cr elevated
bilirubin elevated

Fun drug isn't it?

You need to get that estrogen down before you have cardiac concerns. Start at 25th ED for 7 days. Depending on how you respond. ...and again, blood work is the only real way to know, you MAY want to cut the dose to 12.5mg/d.

Alternatively, switch to adex immediately if you suspect your aromasin is bunk (again, blood work is the best way to know).

[Ridel]

Certainly hope this isn't your first cycle because that's a lot of gear.

Familiarize yourself with aromasin side effects - many mirror symptoms of low or high E:

hot flashes
fatigue
arthralgia
alopecia
alk phos elevated
HTN
headache
insomnia
diaphoresis
dizziness
pain
nausea
depression
diarrhea
osteoarthritis
dermatitis
myalgia
visual disturbance
osteoporosis
fractures
paresthesia
carpal tunnel syndrome
flu syndrome
edema
dyspnea
cough
anorexia
Cr elevated
bilirubin elevated

Fun drug isn't it?

You need to get that estrogen down before you have cardiac concerns. Start at 25th ED for 7 days. Depending on how you respond. ...and again, blood work is the only real way to know, you MAY want to cut the dose to 12.5mg/d.

Alternatively, switch to adex immediately if you suspect your aromasin is bunk (again, blood work is the best way to know).

No this isn't my first cycle. My stats are

5'10''
210
15%

Thanks for your time. Wouldn't mind replies from knowledgable members like yourself.

[Ridel]

Bump

[what?]

I have been running 600mg of test e and 600mg of tren e, I'm in 7th week of my 12 week cycle.
I started at 500mg each then bumped it up to 600 starting week 4.

I have been taking caber since week 4, as i had prolactin issues. Everything is good until i take AI, every time i take Aromasin dose i go from having random boners to no sex drive at all. I think I'm super sensitive to AI, i have no bloat, acne, water retention, etc. But when i start aromasin I get extremely lethargic and tired all the time.

Even at 3mg dose EOD(12.5mg prosum pharma cut into 4 pieces).

I have definitely experienced when everything is right and i feel really good and can stay at the gym all day if i want, Im more inclined to believe its low estrogen since i have dry lips, loss of libido, no wood, loss of sensitivity, night sweats, constant fatigue, lethargy, etc.

I have stopped using aromasin yesterday and i was thinking of stopping it for a week and see if i feel any difference. How can i make sure it stays in the range, so it won't go too high or too low? any

please and thank you!!

I'm not an expert but 600 mgs/week of Tren sounds too much and can cause all this! why not 100mgs/eod aka 300mgs tren a week? might help lower the sides…

gl

[what?]

I am very sensitive to Aromasin as well. I don't know how people can take 25mg/day on any cycle. I can't take 25 mg in two weeks without crashing E during cycle.

what if he switches to Arimidex instead? maybe that can change the out come but still get you what you need done!

[what?]

Certainly hope this isn't your first cycle because that's a lot of gear.

Familiarize yourself with aromasin side effects - many mirror symptoms of low or high E:

hot flashes
fatigue
arthralgia
alopecia
alk phos elevated
HTN
headache
insomnia
diaphoresis
dizziness
pain
nausea
depression
diarrhea
osteoarthritis
dermatitis
myalgia
visual disturbance
osteoporosis
fractures
paresthesia
carpal tunnel syndrome
flu syndrome
edema
dyspnea
cough
anorexia
Cr elevated
bilirubin elevated

Fun drug isn't it?

You need to get that estrogen down before you have cardiac concerns. Start at 25th ED for 7 days. Depending on how you respond. ...and again, blood work is the only real way to know, you MAY want to cut the dose to 12.5mg/d.

Alternatively, switch to adex immediately if you suspect your aromasin is bunk (again, blood work is the best way to know).

can u post the similar sides for Adex? i believe its less but how much less? :P

[Ridel]

can u post the similar sides for Adex? i believe its less but how much less? :P

Should be quite similar

[NACH3]

Order off private MD labs....find a test that suits ur needs. I believe female hormone panel is like 70$ or so. And covers most needs. I could be wrong with price but it's pretty damn cheap.

Thanks Sfla80,
Will be gettin BW done ASAP... Thanks for sound advice!

I've been dosing Aromasin at 25mg Ed... I'm Running 525mg of prop/700mg of primo/& took Anavar for 6 wks at 60mg from wk 6-9 then 80 from 9-12... Then done w/Anavar/ which my cycle is about to end in a wk... Had no sides the whole time except for insomnia/& night sweats(sometimes) this whole time...

When read "aromasin the under dosed AI" I. Would have thought'(& that's what I got outta the article is that it's very/extremely hard to crash Your E w/ Stane?? I've still had some OP tell me at 25mg and higher is normal dose?? I have no bloat, but lately have been feeling worse nauseous mostly, dry mouth/lips?? I'm thinkin(& I know w/out BW WE WILL NEVER KNOW) but not feeling like high E... As my RBC was within normal range(middle) and my BF% is down to 8.3 % tops ...

Thanks for any advice or criticisms!