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    test and stroke risks

    hi,

    for a cycle of test enanthate -600mg/week for 8 weeks and PCT,for an average person who has a normal cholesterol level and normal blood pressure. what are the risks of stroke. are they like that of a 20 a day smoker, a heavy drinker etc or are the risks very low.

    i have spoken to a harm reduction worker, who in my area is well respected for his knowledge on steroids .he said there
    was a risk of stroke,but would not be drawn out on giving a decisive answer.he said there were to many variables.

    all i want to know is that out of lots of people who take steroids,is it just a very small minority who have strokes
    related to steroids, or is it quite common?

    the reason i ask, is because i went to another harm reduction worker who said that if i took steroids, there would be a high chance that i could have stroke.
    i think she was saying this to scare me off taking steroids because she also said that even if steroids were used correctly, you would only gain strength and any increase in
    size of muscles would only be from water retention and after coming off steroids my physique would return to normal.from personal experience and comparing the physiques of natural and steroid using BB's i knew that she was giving me BS.it did however get me wondering about the risk of stroke.

    thanks in advance for any (constructive) advice.

    ken.

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    It's not a big risk at all, unless you have preexisting conditions or something.

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    Man those commercial really got the public freaked out about test. Maybe they should be with doctors prescribing it without consideration of rising hematocrit, estrogen conversion and a host of other common ailments that plague the average American.

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    thanks

    don't want to waste your time but is it say a fraction of the risk a 20 a day smoker has?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    It's not a big risk at all, unless you have preexisting conditions or something.

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    donate blood as often as possible - this will help reduce your RBC
    take 82mg baby aspirin - it makes blood less "sticky"

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    OP the only stroke will will have is you still be stroking your pee pee if you dont have a gf or a wife. There is little risk but with any medication there is always a risk.

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    ^Big, is that you in your AVI? =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    ^Big, is that you in your AVI? =)
    How did you know . . . "What's the matter? Haven't you ever seen a man (performed action) before?". . . think I have been on a cutting cycle to long? Cause I can "Nip it! Nip it in the bud!"

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    It would seem that with research, blood work, proper PCT, proper amount of AAS, and evaluating weight, height, age, etc, and any pre existing medical conditions, etc, should elminate the possibility of potential stroke. Obviously if one or several of those off, then im guessing stroke would be more probable; and probably where it happens 99 out of 100 times. With the right plan and preparation and medical due diligence I would guess it is highly unlikely if not non existent to occur.

    However, you did put unnecessary anxiety in my mind for about 30 seconds from your post, as I am currently on week 1 test E 500mg.

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    i thought about aspirin but read that it could somehow interfere with muscle gain? don't know how true that is also i read that if you take it for a long time you can get a rebound effect that may cause a stroke (i suppose if your prone to strokes) but maybe taking aspirin for 8 -10 weeks wouldn't cause a rebound anyway?

    thank you


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    donate blood as often as possible - this will help reduce your RBC
    take 82mg baby aspirin - it makes blood less "sticky"

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    ha ha thanks that's reassuring

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTahl View Post
    OP the only stroke will will have is you still be stroking your pee pee if you dont have a gf or a wife. There is little risk but with any medication there is always a risk.

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    thanks for the detailed info, as i read the posts i am feeling more relaxed.

    very sorry to cause you a bit of anxiety,but i really needed to get some information which i couldn't get through other means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    It's not a big risk at all, unless you have preexisting conditions or something.
    I agree 110%. Theres some law firms trying to make law suits but its just like they
    do with everything else.

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    Op you're seriously over-thinking all this....
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    yeah, my mind works overtime anyway but when something gets me anxious, my mind goes into overdrive.damn that lying bitch harm reduction worker/nurse.

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    Stroke prevention protocol is

    1 aspirin a day (mentioned by Roman)
    Lipitor
    BP medication
    Diet
    Exercise
    Monitoring of vitals

    If you are going to cycle you are doing the last 3 unless you are dumb. First 3 cost you about a dollar a day. As far as stroke is concerned it is generally an event that causes it to trigger (high stress). Does higher BP, higher CHO to LDL, and thicker blood increase stroke risk? Not as much as low testosterone .....

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    please forgive my ignorance but is BP medication only to be taken if my BP goes high or should it be used to prevent it going high.

    i've never seen BP medication on sale on any of the steroid pharmacies-how do you get hold of it?

    thanks




    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    Stroke prevention protocol is

    1 aspirin a day (mentioned by Roman)
    Lipitor
    BP medication
    Diet
    Exercise
    Monitoring of vitals

    If you are going to cycle you are doing the last 3 unless you are dumb. First 3 cost you about a dollar a day. As far as stroke is concerned it is generally an event that causes it to trigger (high stress). Does higher BP, higher CHO to LDL, and thicker blood increase stroke risk? Not as much as low testosterone.....

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    silly me, i can get hold of BP medicine easily but i'm still unsure on whether to use it to prevent high BP or when high blood pressure strikes,my guess is that it would be ok to start it at the beginning of a cycle because blood pressure will rise.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    Stroke prevention protocol is

    1 aspirin a day (mentioned by Roman)
    Lipitor
    BP medication
    Diet
    Exercise
    Monitoring of vitals

    If you are going to cycle you are doing the last 3 unless you are dumb. First 3 cost you about a dollar a day. As far as stroke is concerned it is generally an event that causes it to trigger (high stress). Does higher BP, higher CHO to LDL, and thicker blood increase stroke risk? Not as much as low testosterone.....

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    stroke this!! ;-)

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    I would not jump into BP meds without having a current issue. Consider arginine supplementation as an alternative.
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    great i'll look into that

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    Check out this thread for lowering BP option: http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...is-2x-day.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkennyb View Post
    great i'll look into that
    Here you go:

    Arginine To Lower High Blood Pressure - Arginin For Hypertension - YouTube
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    thanks Vegan i'll check that out

    [QUOTE=VEGAN-O-ROID;6888832]Check out this thread for lowering BP option:

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    very interesting youtube video,thanks


    [QUOTE=kelkel;6888910]Here you go:

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