Pretty sure my test is way underdosed.

[yepimonfire]

Been taking 1200mg a week, got bloods at week 7 and total test 4th day post inject came in at 3124ng/dl.

I know it varies slightly but everything I've seen has shown an average of half total weekly mgs in ng/dl, eg guy takes 500mg a week and tests out at 2500+-

Just seems awfully low.

[austinite]

Most, if not all UGL gear is underdosed.

[< <Samson> >]

Most, if not all UGL gear is underdosed.

No way, lol

From what I gather the best you're gonna get is about 70-80% of advertised strength

[yepimonfire]

Not necessarily, I've seen some really good numbers across a few specific labs commonly used on another board. Sure it varies but this stuff seems like complete bullshit. I only went that high because 600mg was doing a less then stellar job at helping me keep mass and strength on a hefty cut cycle (steep deficit plus T3). Anytime I went below a simple 500 cal deficit no t3 I started tanking fast. Basically not much different then off gear so I went up to 1200mg and added 400 tren e (which based on sides and results I'm positive is underdosed as well) and as just able to barely keep up on 1000 cal deficit with a modest t3 dose (50mcg). Ran some orals and designers a few times during the beginning of the cycle and actually gained strength and muscle on them so I'd think that much test should be working just as well.

Just isn't right to me.

[David LoPan]

The only way to get it 100% is at a compounding pharmacy. But most of the time you can figure that name brand test at a pharmacy has a 5% variance while generic test RX is within 10%. So when you factor in a lab you know its going to be 90 at the very best. But don't count on that. Then there is the greed factor. Add more oil and make more money. imo

When you have someone that knows what they are doing they can home-brew it stronger. He is not making thousands of bottles.

[Bonaparte]

The only way to get it 100% is at a compounding pharmacy. But most of the time you can figure that name brand test at a pharmacy has a 5% variance while generic test RX is within 10%. So when you factor in a lab you know its going to be 90 at the very best. But don't count on that. Then there is the greed factor. Add more oil and make more money. imo

When you have someone that knows what they are doing they can home-brew it stronger. He is not making thousands of bottles.

Compounding pharmacies make smaller batches, resulting in less accurate dosing than a pharmaceutical company like Watson. And larger batches are more likely to lab be tested than a handful of vials made in the back room of a pharmacy.

But they are all held to a standard 10% margin of error in concentration per USP guidelines.

But yeah OP, your test is WAY underdosed.

[Buster Brown]

I agree with Samson. There is def some really underdosed sauce there!!!!! The thing that really burns me is that you put the time and effort into preparing for a cycle and the cycle becomes a waste of time. You cant put time back on the clock. I am also of the opinion that labs may start out with correctly dosed gear and then slowly under dose. That is the problem with being brand loyal as it has happened to me.

[< <Samson> >]

I am also of the opinion that labs may start out with correctly dosed gear and then slowly under dose. That is the problem with being brand loyal as it has happened to me.

Yup, that's exactly what I say too. Or even better - they over dose it, you think it's fire. Then they just pull back

What I do with this crap, is just load it. It totally sucks because we don't know exactly how much of what we are truly pumping. But, I say fvck it & pretty much run 25-30% more to compensate. Sucks - but, it is what it is. We're just buying & using illegal drugs (for the most part). Sure, it's properly dosed, produced & distributed. - shit, I wish

Even the hormone powder we or the UGL uses is not even close to pure. The shit I'm using is advertised as 70-75% purity. - that's just not that great

But, whatever - I pay as little as possible for my questionable juice

[Buster Brown]

Yup, that's exactly what I say too. Or even better - they over dose it, you think it's fire. Then they just pull back

What I do with this crap, is just load it. It totally sucks because we don't know exactly how much of what we are truly pumping. But, I say fvck it & pretty much run 25-30% more to compensate. Sucks - but, it is what it is. We're just buying & using illegal drugs (for the most part). Sure, it's properly dosed, produced & distributed. - shit, I wish

Even the hormone powder we or the UGL uses is not even close to pure. The shit I'm using is advertised as 70-75% purity. - that's just not that great

But, whatever - I pay as little as possible for my questionable juice

Yup, def agree! Tough to plan a cycle when u have to adjust your dosges due to underdosing. At least you know what you are getting with a homebrew (sorta).

[< <Samson> >]

At least you know what you are getting with a homebrew (sorta).

Kinda sorta

I was thinking of brewing from now on. It's a bit cheaper and you know what's in it. < Yeah no, hormone powders can get pricey. But, test is cheap as shit. The good expensive is def cut with test - It's simple drug dealer logic: Cut it with cheap shit to get more

[btc89]

Sorry to hear bro, I wish you better luck next time

[lovbyts]

Did you get any other test done such as E2? How much of it is being converted to estrogen? Maybe you need to up your AI but you wont know without the right blood work.

[Bonaparte]

Did you get any other test done such as E2? How much of it is being converted to estrogen? Maybe you need to up your AI but you wont know without the right blood work.

Estrogen conversion will only make a small impact on test levels (less than 10% conversion). If he were converting enough Test to E2 or DHT to account for those pitiful numbers, he would be some sort of biological anomaly and would be experiencing insane side effects.

[Ashop]

Been taking 1200mg a week, got bloods at week 7 and total test 4th day post inject came in at 3124ng/dl.

I know it varies slightly but everything I've seen has shown an average of half total weekly mgs in ng/dl, eg guy takes 500mg a week and tests out at 2500+-

Just seems awfully low.

Your numbers are 3124 ng/dl and you think your gear is weak??
Have you ever seen what a 'natural' reading is??

[Cuz]

Its not a bad reading at all. But is very low for that amount of test. Ive seen much higher levels off less mg test.

[< <Samson> >]

I think on my last BW it was right at about 3,500, I was running 750mg of test per week

[Bonaparte]

Your numbers are 3124 ng/dl and you think your gear is weak??
Have you ever seen what a 'natural' reading is??

Most guys test higher than that on 500 mg. He's on 1200.