Newbie - Legal Steroids (M-drol) and PCT

[superflyanimal]

Hi, so I've read through lots of articles and done a lot of research, but as you now, there is a lot of different information out there so I just want to make sure I've got the correct plan. I've just finished my first cycle of M-drol (one of the strongest legal steroids apparently) and I'm on my PCT. You guys are the experts so I just want some confirmation that I'm doing it right. I've played sports and done kickboxing for years but the last year+ has been mainly bodybuilding (I'm 31). I'm still reading the articles on here lately, but came to the forums to get some advice too.

On-Cycle (4 weeks)
M-drol 10/20/20/20
Milk Thistle - 2 capsules daily

Off-Cycle (2 weeks)
Milk Thistle - 2 capsules daily

PCT
Triazole - 3 capsules daily
(I also have Reversitol, but I chose Triazole instead)

[austinite]

I'm confused. You have a prescription for M-Drol?

Milk thistle, Triazole, Resveretrol, all garbage.

[superflyanimal]

No, M-drol is legal, you can buy it online pretty easy. I know there is illegal PCT like Nolvadex and Clomid, but they are illegal and hard to find online. I thought those I picked were good, given that my cycle isn't very aggressive.

[austinite]

That's not FDA approved and all "Legit" companies recalled superdrol per instructions from the FDA. From what I recall.......... Pretty sure you're reading old articles.

Anyway... Why bother with this stuff? Just use Testosterone .

[superflyanimal]

I don't want to use testosterone yet as I wanted to try (what I thought was) legal prohormones as I've heard they produce good results (and they did) and I didn't want to risk any nasty side effects if I didn't know what I was doing.

[austinite]

OK. Superdrol isn't side effect free. Either way, I'll let others chime in.

Good luck.

[superflyanimal]

The only side effect I got from m-drol was that it killed my sex drive. That's why I used Triazole for my PCT to help my body naturally produce testosterone and to act as a anti-estrogen so I don't get any other nasty after effects. Sex drive is slowly coming back though, thanks to the Triazole. Thanks for the input though.

[Mr.BB]

Prohormones can be worse than actual steroids due to its toxicity and people running them without knowing what they are doing.

You can start reading here:

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[superflyanimal]

I'd already read a lot of those types of newbie posts, but thanks. I think I'm happy with routine and I'll do it again. I did see good gains.

[Bigkdog]

Bro prohormones are a waste of time Test is the bomb !!! Test alone blows away any PH

[MuscleInk]

The only side effect I got from m-drol was that it killed my sex drive. That's why I used Triazole for my PCT to help my body naturally produce testosterone and to act as a anti-estrogen so I don't get any other nasty after effects. Sex drive is slowly coming back though, thanks to the Triazole. Thanks for the input though.

Did you have your liver function tested? I'd be much more concerned about the damage that is NOT visible Pro hormones are notoriously hepatotoxic which is why you will rarely see anyone here advocate that crap.

[kronik420]

Hi, so I've read through lots of articles and done a lot of research, but as you now, there is a lot of different information out there so I just want to make sure I've got the correct plan. I've just finished my first cycle of M-drol (one of the strongest legal steroids apparently) and I'm on my PCT. You guys are the experts so I just want some confirmation that I'm doing it right. I've played sports and done kickboxing for years but the last year+ has been mainly bodybuilding (I'm 31). I'm still reading the articles on here lately, but came to the forums to get some advice too.

On-Cycle (4 weeks)
M-drol 10/20/20/20
Milk Thistle - 2 capsules daily

Off-Cycle (2 weeks)
Milk Thistle - 2 capsules daily

PCT
Triazole - 3 capsules daily
(I also have Reversitol, but I chose Triazole instead)

so you want confirmation that your doing it right?

well... your doing it wrong...

all that ^ is a waste of money + health, the risks out weigh the rewards. and if you don't wanna do test, then the next best thing would be more food, heavier weights, more effort. you could give creatine a try too.

[tice1212]

I'd already read a lot of those types of newbie posts, but thanks. I think I'm happy with routine and I'll do it again. I did see good gains.

why did u come on this forum if ur not going to take anyone's advice.. Go head and loss ur gains after ur DUMB PH cycle.. Oh and when u can't get ur d*ck hard for ur girlfriend.. Give her my number, i'll take care of her for u.. ;-) ill PM my cell number to give to her..

[MuscleInk]

I'd already read a lot of those types of newbie posts, but thanks. I think I'm happy with routine and I'll do it again. I did see good gains.

You can do whatever you like. It's your choice, you just won't see much love or support for PHs especially from guys that have cycled for decades. I've been practicing medicine for 18 years and I've seen some young and older men mess themselves up with PHs - and every one was initially convinced it was the smart choice. Have I seen anyone die on PHs, no, of course not, although I've seen some pretty sick individuals with hepatic function comparable to cirrhosis or hepatitis in some cases. Those who manage to avoid severe liver damage, struggle with other health conditions, though less severe, equally frustrating for the patient.

It's your call. The advice offered isn't intended to frustrate you. It's based on experience among knowledgable users who, in many cases, actually do know what they are referring to and aren't guessing at this stuff.

[davesah1]

Everyone I know who did these types of cycles which was usually back in HS, (if cycle is even an appropriate term for this). they had "great gains" and then magically lost them. Granted they didnt do a PCT and have a solid diet program and consistent lifting program and god knows how the quality of it was.
Look at the biggest and most reputable dudes on this forum, they never do these type of cycles.

5 kids I've seen gain 5-10 pounds and return to normal within months. Plus no drinking (yikes), especially on PH's.
If you aren't ready for needles don't get into the game. Surgeons aren't afraid of blood.

[davesah1]

Don't know if it was M-drol, but of these had a friend milking like a cow too.

[Stealthypickle9]

my friend took mdrol at 16 and blew up, but he lost all his gains and thank god he told me about it cuz he didnt even know what a pct was till i talked to him half way through his cycle. so basically all he retained were some acne scars.

[MuscleInk]

my friend took mdrol at 16 and blew up, but he lost all his gains and thank god he told me about it cuz he didnt even know what a pct was till i talked to him half way through his cycle. so basically all he retained were some acne scars.

Because he hadn't learned how to eat! You can't keep what you don't properly fuel with food and way to many young guys dismiss nutrition as less important than pills and needles.

[Stealthypickle9]

thats so true! im shocked he gained as much as he did, hes a cross country runner too so it was all wrong for him

[Ashop]

There is NO denying that MDROL is a strong,,effective,,designer oral AAS
but show it respect. Low doses are my best advice for short periods.

[NACH3]

Don't know if it was M-drol, but of these had a friend milking like a cow too.

I too, had a buddy who had no clue what he was doing and had to get surgery for gyno(I mean tits like a broad), and his body is still all F----d up, and is worse now than ever(liver damage-jaundice, cirrhosis, etc)and he's worse off now than ever(yeah he blew up to 260lbs and is now 180 maybe! All b/c he thought PH's were ok b/c they were legal(or sold OTC)... Test is way better and a lot easier to control if like anything you know what your doing!!

Good luck bro!

[superflyanimal]

I don't get notifications when I get replies to this, maybe there's a button somewhere for that. I'm still doing my research, so much to learn. I won't be starting another cycle for 2 weeks, so I'm just considering my options. Pro hormones are very toxic on the liver and have dangerous side effects, that's why I was asking is my cycle info correct. I don't plan to do high doses of it, just the same cycle as I described. Is it not only people who:
1) abuse it
2) dont cycle correctly or
3) use high doses

... that get the problems? I know what my side effects are on it now, so I can make sure I take the liver tablets and Triazole. But yes, I understand that injecting testosterone is better, so I will look into that more. Or maybe someone can highlight briefly the benefits of Test vs PH?

[Mp859]

You are not ready to be running anything. I gather this from what you have wrote.

[superflyanimal]

You are not ready to be running anything. I gather this from what you have wrote.

Well that's fair enough, but maybe some information on where I am going wrong might help.

[Honkey_Kong]

m-drol isn't legal. And it most definitely has side-effects.

[superflyanimal]

Question: If steroids or PH such as M-drol use synthetic testosterone and it stops lows your bodies natural production of testosterone, should you not use testosterone boosters like Triazole or Reversitol as part of the stack when you are on the cycle as well as for PCT? Will this not stop the loss of sex drive and low libido? Or is it damaging to use both at the same time?

[Honkey_Kong]

Question: If steroids or PH such as M-drol use synthetic testosterone and it stops lows your bodies natural production of testosterone, should you not use testosterone boosters like Triazole or Reversitol as part of the stack when you are on the cycle as well as for PCT? Will this not stop the loss of sex drive and low libido? Or is it damaging to use both at the same time?

All test boosters are useless garbage that snake oil peddlers push. ALL OF THEM! M-Drol is pretty effective at completely shutting down your testosterone production. Just remember that testosterone should be the base for every cycle you do. And you need your ancillaries as well.