BP and Giving Blood

**Deequarius** · 07-05-2014, 11:01 PM

I am currently on cycle (4 weeks in) and I am just curious what I should do about the whole BP and giving blood situation. I am on accutane and they won't accept my blood so I don't know where/how I should handle this. Ideas?

**austinite** · 07-05-2014, 11:10 PM

They won't accept your blood because you answered "yes" to one of the questions. So you should have answered "no" to all questions.

Get a CBC panel pulled and if your hematocrit is too high, ask a doctor for a prescription to have a therapeutic phlebotomy performed.

Keep hydrated and keep vessels dilated with Cialis or Arginine and the likes.

**Deequarius** · 07-05-2014, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

They won't accept your blood because you answered "yes" to one of the questions. So you should have answered "no" to all questions. Get a CBC panel pulled and if your hematocrit is too high, ask a doctor for a prescription to have a therapeutic phlebotomy performed. Keep hydrated and keep vessels dilated with Cialis or Arginine and the likes.

I haven't even tried to give blood.. I just didn't want to give some pregnant mother issues by her receiving my blood. I suppose they probably do some additional testing after the blood is sent through to make sure...

**Bonaparte** · 07-05-2014, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Deequarius

I haven't even tried to give blood.. I just didn't want to give some pregnant mother issues by her receiving my blood. I suppose they probably do some additional testing after the blood is sent through to make sure...

Good. Accutane is a good reason to not give whole blood.

**auswest** · 07-05-2014, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Deequarius

I haven't even tried to give blood.. I just didn't want to give some pregnant mother issues by her receiving my blood. I suppose they probably do some additional testing after the blood is sent through to make sure...

I respect your answer

**SeatownSharksFan** · 07-06-2014, 06:45 AM

They told me they check for 26 diseases but they never said anythign about testosterone or other. I'm totally with you regarding how unethical it is to give blood when you're on accutane.

**austinite** · 07-06-2014, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Deequarius

I suppose they probably do some additional testing after the blood is sent through to make sure...

Of course, they won't pull from you and instantly give someone else.

Just get a prescription or do it yourself. Either way, you need a CBC panel, that's your start.

**mesophyte** · 07-10-2014, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Of course, they won't pull from you and instantly give someone else.

Just get a prescription or do it yourself. Either way, you need a CBC panel, that's your start.

Is this something that should be done by everyone? If so, is the ideal time mid-cycle?

**MuscleInk** · 07-10-2014, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by mesophyte

Is this something that should be done by everyone? If so, is the ideal time mid-cycle?

Ideally, yes, unless you are checking your blood routinely and are sure your hematocrit, RBCs, hemaglobin, etc. are within normal ranges.

**austinite** · 07-10-2014, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Ideally, yes, unless you are checking your blood routinely and are sure your hematocrit, RBCs, hemaglobin, etc. are within normal ranges.

Correct-amundo.

Never hurts to dump a pint every few months.

**Ashop** · 07-10-2014, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

They won't accept your blood because you answered "yes" to one of the questions. So you should have answered "no" to all questions.

Get a CBC panel pulled and if your hematocrit is too high, ask a doctor for a prescription to have a therapeutic phlebotomy performed.

Keep hydrated and keep vessels dilated with Cialis or Arginine and the likes.

Agreed,,,you probably should have checked no in a few areas but GREAT idea on going in and having
some standard labs ran.

**Sfla80** · 07-10-2014, 08:31 PM

So if I'm understanding this thread correctly.

I just gave blood...I did slack 9n this during my last cycle. BP had been high since and during the cycle which is expected especially with a tren run.

Been almost a week since blood given. Everything is still high for me. 150ish/85ish. Give or take.higher or lower by a few any given day.

Going for bloods soon too...should I add cbc panel to check everything out?

**austinite** · 07-10-2014, 08:33 PM

Yes, I would always get a CBC panel. CBC and CMP are two panels I always get, everytime I get blood work, regardless of the reason.

**Sfla80** · 07-10-2014, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Yes, I would always get a CBC panel. CBC and CMP are two panels I always get, everytime I get blood work, regardless of the reason.

Ty....my BP have been worrying me.

**MuscleInk** · 07-10-2014, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Sfla80

Ty....my BP have been worrying me.

It should. Hypertension put me in the ER last night with a ruptured blood vessel.

**evander87** · 07-11-2014, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

It should. Hypertension put me in the ER last night with a ruptured blood vessel.

Hope the BP is under control MI

Hypertension is no joke. I had a hypertensive crisis a few months ago that left me partially blind. Get that shit checked and under control.

Eat meticulous, train ridiculous for best results.

**FONZY007** · 07-11-2014, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by evander87

Hope the BP is under control MI Hypertension is no joke. I had a hypertensive crisis a few months ago that left me partially blind. Get that shit checked and under control. Eat meticulous, train ridiculous for best results.

Yea and most the time you don't know.. I was sick last year while on gear and mine jumped up to 165/85

They put me on BP meds which is fine, but I felt fine they don't call it the silent killer for no reason

**noon** · 07-11-2014, 09:49 AM

Double red cell donations
It's like an oil change

**MuscleInk** · 07-11-2014, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by evander87

Hope the BP is under control MI

Hypertension is no joke. I had a hypertensive crisis a few months ago that left me partially blind. Get that shit checked and under control.

Eat meticulous, train ridiculous for best results.

A ruptured blood vessel causing anterior epistaxis will get your attention quickly. People think it won't happen to them, but these events can range from mild to serious. I was asymptomatic for 4 days, then one night this week, my nose started bleeding profusely and would not stop. I checked my BP: 178/87.

A BP north of 190 is a STROKE risk.

This is why I continually stress to these young guys worried about "man boobs".....be more concerned about the events you DON'T see. They can be far more life threatening than a pair of unpleasant titties.

**MuscleInk** · 07-11-2014, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by FONZY007

Yea and most the time you don't know.. I was sick last year while on gear and mine jumped up to 165/85

They put me on BP meds which is fine, but I felt fine they don't call it the silent killer for no reason

See my post above. I beat you......not something to be proud of.

**Mr.BB** · 07-11-2014, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

A ruptured blood vessel causing anterior epistaxis will get your attention quickly. People think it won't happen to them, but these events can range from mild to serious. I was asymptomatic for 4 days, then one night this week, my nose started bleeding profusely and would not stop. I checked my BP: 178/87.

A BP north of 190 is a STROKE risk.

This is why I continually stress to these young guys worried about "man boobs".....be more concerned about the events you DON'T see. They can be far more life threatening than a pair of unpleasant titties.

Like someone said before... doctors are the worse patients

Hope your BP is better now

**MuscleInk** · 07-11-2014, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Like someone said before... doctors are the worse patients

Hope your BP is better now

Yes, we are extremely stubborn.

BP is 122/78 today

**evander87** · 07-11-2014, 12:29 PM

Holy crap I had you both beat. When I hit the crisis my BP was 220/120 now even on meds the doctors are happy I'm around 140/80. That was OFF cycle. Think it might have been a bunch of the legal OTC supplements.

If I was 220/120 and ran tren could you imaging what would have happened??

Btw I'm always going to have hbp I inherited it from my mom. No clue I had hypertension and I have ran aas while not knowing. I'm a damned lucky guy to still be here fully functional. Well the eye sight is still on the mend. Blood pressure is no joke get that shit checked.

Eat meticulous, train ridiculous for best results.

**Deequarius** · 07-11-2014, 12:35 PM

A few years ago I was on a different medication to manage my ADD and once at the Dr my BP was 170-120. That was at 16 years old. High BP is some scary stuff. My grandfather had his first of 5 heart attacks at the age of 42 so my heart is something I'm always watching.

**MuscleInk** · 07-11-2014, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by evander87

Holy crap I had you both beat. When I hit the crisis my BP was 220/120 now even on meds the doctors are happy I'm around 140/80. That was OFF cycle. Think it might have been a bunch of the legal OTC supplements.

If I was 220/120 and ran tren could you imaging what would have happened??

Btw I'm always going to have hbp I inherited it from my mom. No clue I had hypertension and I have ran aas while not knowing. I'm a damned lucky guy to still be here fully functional. Well the eye sight is still on the mend. Blood pressure is no joke get that shit checked.

Eat meticulous, train ridiculous for best results.

Good grief, I'd shit my pants!!!

Getting needles shoved in my nasal septum now. Makes our I.M. injections seem like a vacation.

**evander87** · 07-11-2014, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Good grief, I'd shit my pants!!! Getting needles shoved in my nasal septum now. Makes our I.M. injections seem like a vacation.

Holy crap that sounds nasty. Mend up quickly brother.

Eat meticulous, train ridiculous for best results.

**MuscleInk** · 07-11-2014, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by evander87

Holy crap that sounds nasty. Mend up quickly brother.

Eat meticulous, train ridiculous for best results.

Unpleasant. Would rather be the clinician and not the patient.

Thanks brother. Focusing on health to get things back to proper ranges.

**oldnsedentary** · 07-11-2014, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Ideally, yes, unless you are checking your blood routinely and are sure your hematocrit, RBCs, hemaglobin, etc. are within normal ranges.

I gave blood recently. Hemoglobin was "perfect" but they do not check hematocrit, which is a percentage. Also, at first, they said my blood pressure was high. I requested a larger cuff. The lady at first refused, "this one fits," but then relented. With the large cuff my blood pressure was miraculously normal.

Squats less than 24 hours later were brutal, however.