NPP + Test P Cycle Dosages? Cycle Length? Help thx <3

[aestheticskrew]

Hey guys, I'm 24. 5'75ft, 169lb. Stats: 285x1 bench, 315x3 squat, 405x5 deadlift.

First cycle, looking to go for NPP and Test Prop.

Please don't say anything like "no two compounds first cycle" or "test e only cycle". Been considering it for a while, done research, already bought withdrawing, injecting needles and cycle support. (AI cycle Support and Liv52).

I'm not really sure about the dosages and length of this first cycle..
I'm on a 330$ budget for the gear, PCT, AI.

Is it possible to get a decent cycle in with these 2 compounds with that amount of money? If so, what should the dosage and length look like?

Thanks brahs!

Edit: my goal is to get lean mass + good strength gains.

[MuscleInk]

Hey guys, I'm 24. 5'75ft, 169lb. Stats: 285x1 bench, 315x3 squat, 405x5 deadlift.

First cycle, looking to go for NPP and Test Prop.

Please don't say anything like "no two compounds first cycle" or "test e only cycle". Been considering it for a while, done research, already bought withdrawing, injecting needles and cycle support. (AI cycle Support and Liv52).

I'm not really sure about the dosages and length of this first cycle..
I'm on a 330$ budget for the gear, PCT, AI.

Is it possible to get a decent cycle in with these 2 compounds with that amount of money? If so, what should the dosage and length look like?

Thanks brahs!

Edit: my goal is to get lean mass + good strength gains.

Like it or not, you'll be told by guys with more experience and success that your first cycle should be test only. You won't always hear what you want. That's life but by your own volition, you can disregard the advice of more experienced users and proceed as you wish.

You should have a real AI not some knock off. HCG to maintain leydig cell function to promote recovery of your natural test and a proper PCT of clomid and nolva.

Price discussions are taboo but honestly that budget won't get you far.

Hopefully you have more money than that for your nutrition because if not, the cycle will be a wasted effott.

[aestheticskrew]

Like it or not, you'll be told by guys with more experience and success that your first cycle should be test only. You won't always hear what you want. That's life but by your own volition, you can disregard the advice of more experienced users and proceed as you wish.

You should have a real AI not some knock off. HCG to maintain leydig cell function to promote recovery of your natural test and a proper PCT of clomid and nolva.

Price discussions are taboo but honestly that budget won't get you far.

Hopefully you have more money than that for your nutrition because if not, the cycle will be a wasted effott.

Of course. I'm an ignorant **** so I'll do as I wish. But thanks for your reply (serious).
Anyways, the AI Cycle Support is just a "cycle support" as it says. Along with that I'll probably be getting arimidex which is my non knock off AI although i heard that caber should be implemented instead (correct me if i'm wrong).

Also, HCG is hard to come by.. i'll look for it. Thank you. and yes, i'll have enough money for protein, diet, etc.

[MuscleInk]

Of course. I'm an ignorant **** so I'll do as I wish. But thanks for your reply (serious).
Anyways, the AI Cycle Support is just a "cycle support" as it says. Along with that I'll probably be getting arimidex which is my non knock off AI although i heard that caber should be implemented instead (correct me if i'm wrong).

Also, HCG is hard to come by.. i'll look for it. Thank you. and yes, i'll have enough money for protein, diet, etc.

Include an AI (arimidex or aromasin ). Dopamine agonists such as cabergoline or pramipexole are advised to control prolactin but if you control your E2, the DA may be unnecessary.

HCG is ideal for keeping those leydig cells healthy.

[aestheticskrew]

Include an AI (arimidex or aromasin ). Dopamine agonists such as cabergoline or pramipexole are advised to control prolactin but if you control your E2, the DA may be unnecessary.

HCG is ideal for keeping those leydig cells healthy.

Ah, thanks. What would be a minimum dosage and cycle length to achieve gains from these two compounds?

[numbere]

You should ask your dealer how much it will cost, we have no idea what types of prices you pay. The minimum length I would run this cycle would be 8 weeks. That budget you proposed is not enough for gear and PCT. HCG is inexpensive when compared to gear, and easy to find. Don't forget to budget for food, BW, gym fees, and any other problems that might arise (ex. gyno). I can tell by your OP and other statements that you are not ready to cycle. It would be in your best interest to take a month or two and do some more research. During that time you can save some more money so this gets done correctly.

[aestheticskrew]

You should ask your dealer how much it will cost, we have no idea what types of prices you pay. The minimum length I would run this cycle would be 8 weeks. That budget you proposed is not enough for gear and PCT. HCG is inexpensive when compared to gear, and easy to find. Don't forget to budget for food, BW, gym fees, and any other problems that might arise (ex. gyno). I can tell by your OP and other statements that you are not ready to cycle. It would be in your best interest to take a month or two and do some more research. During that time you can save some more money so this gets done correctly.

Well aware of the prices of NPP, test and most if not all compounds. However, I'm not sure of the dosages needed to run for NPP.
Lengths i've read anywhere from 8-16wks w/ test prop and nandrolone phenylpropionate.. some people go from 400-700mg per wk on npp. however, after researching,, i cannot find a minimum of npp to take while still gaining substantially.

I assure you, I've considered Test E 500mg a wk 12 wks, + dbol kickstart 30mg 1-4wks however that doesn't seem appealing to me. Of course, your warning is taken and i will be wary but it is in my best interest to use another compound such as NPP.

Could someone please give me the dosages for NPP as I cannot find anything on it that fits my situation.

[MuscleInk]

You should ask your dealer how much it will cost, we have no idea what types of prices you pay. The minimum length I would run this cycle would be 8 weeks. That budget you proposed is not enough for gear and PCT. HCG is inexpensive when compared to gear, and easy to find. Don't forget to budget for food, BW, gym fees, and any other problems that might arise (ex. gyno). I can tell by your OP and other statements that you are not ready to cycle. It would be in your best interest to take a month or two and do some more research. During that time you can save some more money so this gets done correctly.

As recommended above and the single greatest determinant of gains is your nutrition. You need to know what your TDEE is and if you want to gain, you will need to eat well above that (a minimum of 500 extra cals beyond your TDEE) everyday. You have to feed the growth. Steroids won't do it for you and if you don't fuel the muscle, it won't grow.

Moreover, once you added LBM, you will need to adjust your TDEE to maintain the growth or you WILL lose it.

[aestheticskrew]

As recommended above and the single greatest determinant of gains is your nutrition. You need to know what your TDEE is and if you want to gain, you will need to eat well above that (a minimum of 500 extra cals beyond your TDEE) everyday. You have to feed the growth. Steroids won't do it for you and if you don't fuel the muscle, it won't grow.

Moreover, once you added LBM, you will need to adjust your TDEE to maintain the growth or you WILL lose it.

I will have enough money for diet, etc as stated above.
I am willing to push my budget further for gear/pct. However I would prefer not to spend more on gear than i already have to; as you said above diet mainly constitutes gains. Which is the reason why i'm asking about the minimum dosage effectiveness of both npp and test p stacked.

[numbere]

Well aware of the prices of NPP, test and most if not all compounds. However, I'm not sure of the dosages needed to run for NPP.
Lengths i've read anywhere from 8-16wks w/ test prop and nandrolone phenylpropionate.. some people go from 400-700mg per wk on npp. however, after researching,, i cannot find a minimum of npp to take while still gaining substantially.

I assure you, I've considered Test E 500mg a wk 12 wks, + dbol kickstart 30mg 1-4wks however that doesn't seem appealing to me. Of course, your warning is taken and i will be wary but it is in my best interest to use another compound such as NPP.

Could someone please give me the dosages for NPP as I cannot find anything on it that fits my situation.

If you need someone to tell you the appropriate dosages then you do not understand the products well enough to cycle.

[aestheticskrew]

If you need someone to tell you the appropriate dosages then you do not understand the products well enough to cycle.

So you're going to be trivial instead of giving correct dosages? Jesus.
Dosages vary in every situation. Usually people will cycle 300-400mg NPP per week (which is proven to work well), however I am asking what is the lowest you can go with NPP and still attain substantial gains; which rarely anyone experiments with.. They're usually go big or go home. I assure you I know what NPP is and does.

[numbere]

So you're going to be trivial instead of giving correct dosages? Jesus.
Dosages vary in every situation. Usually people will cycle 300-400mg NPP per week (which is proven to work well), however I am asking what is the lowest you can go with NPP and still attain substantial gains; which rarely anyone experiments with.. They're usually go big or go home. I assure you I know what NPP is and does.

There are over 1,700 threads just like yours in the archives.

npp test prop dosage/cycle length?

Short ester cycle - Test p / NPP

[aestheticskrew]

There are over 1,700 threads just like yours in the archives.

Are you thickheaded or are you doing this on purpose?
Take a nice long read of my previous post again.

What I'm looking for is the "MINIMUM" dosage of NPP. You even posted a thread where the OP is going 125mg EoD on NPP, that's hardly the minimum if the AVERAGE is around 400mg a wk. Please kindly remove yourself from this thread if you're not even going to answer a question. What you post is really redundant and unhelpful. I assure you again, I know what NPP does and I have researched and I promise you I looked through many threads about NPP and Prop.

[numbere]

Best of luck with your cycle junior.

[Back In Black]

What a way to try and get help. Are you Australian by any chance OP?

Best of luck from me too.

[austinite]

Are you thickheaded or are you doing this on purpose?
Take a nice long read of my previous post again.

What I'm looking for is the "MINIMUM" dosage of NPP. You even posted a thread where the OP is going 125mg EoD on NPP, that's hardly the minimum if the AVERAGE is around 400mg a wk. Please kindly remove yourself from this thread if you're not even going to answer a question. What you post is really redundant and unhelpful. I assure you again, I know what NPP does and I have researched and I promise you I looked through many threads about NPP and Prop.

Don't be combative. If you're not here to listen to advice or communicate properly, find yourself another forum.

[Chicagotarsier]

330 wont do it. You looking at 500+. Cheapest test alone with shipping going to run you 300 for a 12 week cycle.

NPP at 400 is a good dose. Most say over 700 the gains are not worth the sides. I am running 700 currently with no sides.

Test and NPP are affordable but you need more cash.

Hey guys, I'm 24. 5'75ft, 169lb. Stats: 285x1 bench, 315x3 squat, 405x5 deadlift.

First cycle, looking to go for NPP and Test Prop.

Please don't say anything like "no two compounds first cycle" or "test e only cycle". Been considering it for a while, done research, already bought withdrawing, injecting needles and cycle support. (AI cycle Support and Liv52).

I'm not really sure about the dosages and length of this first cycle..
I'm on a 330$ budget for the gear, PCT, AI.

Is it possible to get a decent cycle in with these 2 compounds with that amount of money? If so, what should the dosage and length look like?

Thanks brahs!

Edit: my goal is to get lean mass + good strength gains.

[krisko]

Don't forget with the NPP you need something to combat Prolactin.

[MuscleInk]

Don't forget with the NPP you need something to combat Prolactin.

Correct, not always an issue if E2 is properly managed but still advisable to have cabergoline or pramipexole.

[Succor]

Are you thickheaded or are you doing this on purpose?
Take a nice long read of my previous post again.

What I'm looking for is the "MINIMUM" dosage of NPP. You even posted a thread where the OP is going 125mg EoD on NPP, that's hardly the minimum if the AVERAGE is around 400mg a wk. Please kindly remove yourself from this thread if you're not even going to answer a question. What you post is really redundant and unhelpful. I assure you again, I know what NPP does and I have researched and I promise you I looked through many threads about NPP and Prop.

Then answer your own questions through further research, genius