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    1st Cycle - Let's Go!

    I have been lurking around the forums like many others, finally decided to step out! I have been doing some studying on particular cycles and whatnot so here goes!

    STATS
    - 31 year old Male
    - 6'1"
    - 188-198 (Currently at 188)
    - 10 % BF and still cutting
    - THIS WILL BE MY FIRST CYCLE!
    - Been training for 5+ years (But most rigorous training about 7 months ago)
    - Lactose Intolerant (Go figure)

    Proposed Cycle

    8 WEEK CYCLE followed by PCT w/ a goal to gain sustainable lean muscle and increased strength gains. Going for 10lbs gain!

    WK 1-8 Test Prop 150mg EOD
    WK 3-8 Anavar 60mg ED dosed at 30mg 2x/day
    WK 1-8 Arimidex .25mg ED & adjust accordingly reducing to .125mg in LAST WEEK
    WK 1-8 hCG 250 IU 2x wk injected day before test

    PCT

    WK 9-13
    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

    I have a consistent diet and supplementation.

    Supplementation

    All taken at the appropriate times and dosage of course.

    -Multivitamin (MusclePharm Arnold Iron Pack)
    -BCAAs (Scivation Xtend, #jugclub)
    -HMB (Optimum Nutrition)
    -ZMA (Optimum Nutrition)
    -TMG (aka Betaine, NOW brand)
    -CLA
    -L-Carnitine (NOW brand)
    -Cellucor C4 PWO
    -Whey Protein (Optimum Nutrition)
    -Digestive Enzymes ("Top Secret" brand, used for Lactose issue)

    DIET

    I follow a super clean diet and eat all throughout day like an animal. I don't add salt or other condiments and have a cheat meal probably every couple weeks (but nothing too crazy). Times aren't always consistent because of crazy work schedule, but meals are complete. I change my proteins for meals throughout week, but mainly it's chicken that's consumed. And oftentimes, I usually eat more of the food listed!

    Breakfast
    When I wake up, Protein shake with frozen fruits (strawberries or blueberries) 24g Protein

    About 30 mins later:
    -6 egg whites, 2 whole eggs
    -2 cups cooked oatmeal

    Late morning snack:
    -Sliced pineapple (1 cup)
    -1 Clif Bar (9g protein)
    -BCAAs throughout day

    Lunch
    -1 can Albacore tuna on wheat bread w/ light mayo due to lactose issue.
    -1 large piece of fruit
    -Protein shake (24g)
    -PBJ sandwich
    -BCAAs as always

    DINNER
    -Again, proteins range for dinners but it's mainly Steak, Salmon, or Chicken (8-10oz)
    -1 cup of Veggies (usually asparagus)
    -2 cups of whole grain brown rice
    -2 cups mixed greens salad with olive oil/vinegar
    -Protein Shake (24g)
    -BCAAs

    WORKOUT
    PRE:
    -Protein Shake (24g)
    -1 Apple
    -PWO (Cellucor)
    INTRA & POST:
    -BCAAs throughout workout
    -Casein Protein (24g)
    -Usually a fast acting CARB such as gummy bears or Vitargo

    I hope this post serves well and let me know what you think! Thanks all.

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    Only test first cycle. Why test P? I dont think you will get much of the results on a 8 week cycle.
    Week 1 to 12: Testosterone E or C @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
    Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
    Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)
    Wait 14 days to start PCT after last injection on E or C

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    I agree with Big Tahl. You should drop the anavar . You could throw in Test P 100mg every other day for weeks 1-3 assuming you've already got it on hand. It would kick start your cycle. 8 weeks is a waste of money. Get blood work done around week 6 or 7 also.

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    Thanks for the input! I have been leaning towards Test P because of short ester and ability to be "fast acting". In addition to clearing from system much quicker that E or C if any problems arise. Not to mention that P has been said to have less bloat sides...

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    Thanks Wiz and BigT,

    I actually have Var on hand right now and awaiting the Test and others... I will more likely just do test to see how body reacts because after all it will be better to determine what is causing "what".

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    Since it is your first time only run one compound at a time. You cant tell how you body will react to 2 aas or which is giving your issues. Test P for first couple of weeks is okay but you want the longer ester for you entire cycle.

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    Of course! Thanks for the input fellas. Guess it's just TEST. I can imagine that the Arimidex , hCG , and PCT doses are still sufficient?

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    Sounds like you need to eat more!

    Send me a PM and I will send you the macro calculator.

    for a body builder, 10% is pretty good. no need to cut. unless you are skinny fat? either way, you need to grow.

    do you know your TDEE? and what are the macros for the nutrition you just detailed?

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    its going to suck trying to pin prop eod especially when u have no experience doing so its much easier running test e i wouldn't worry to much about sides u have Arimidex and your 10% the benefits of prop really is only that it out of the system faster but that's it i don't think you'll she much of a blot deference and as far as "fast acting" not so much bc its going to take 4 to 6 weeks to really see much anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    Sounds like you need to eat more!

    Send me a PM and I will send you the macro calculator.

    for a body builder, 10% is pretty good. no need to cut. unless you are skinny fat? either way, you need to grow.

    do you know your TDEE? and what are the macros for the nutrition you just detailed?
    Yes! I gotta eat more. So many people have told me and I have been force feeding myself as of lately haha. I used the IIFYM calculator.


    Here's what I came up with. Says my BMR is currently 1863 calories a day and TDEE is 2725 calories a day. My metabolism is crazy fast too... Also dealing with lactose intolerance issue, so I have to substitute the dairy proteins. Facing an uphill battle!

    This is what it says to change to.

    Grams per day:
    CARBS 238.3
    PROTEIN 376
    FAT 75.2
    FIBER 38-47
    CALORIES 3134

    GRAMS per meal:
    CARBS 39.7
    PROTEIN 62.7
    FAT 12.5
    FIBER 6 - 8
    CALORIES 522
    Last edited by LargeMarge; 07-09-2014 at 09:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank13 View Post
    its going to suck trying to pin prop eod especially when u have no experience doing so its much easier running test e i wouldn't worry to much about sides u have Arimidex and your 10% the benefits of prop really is only that it out of the system faster but that's it i don't think you'll she much of a blot deference and as far as "fast acting" not so much bc its going to take 4 to 6 weeks to really see much anyways
    Gonna switch it up to Test E. Thanks for the reply!

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