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    Exclamation Critique my First Cycle - Constructive Criticism Welcome

    Age: 21
    Height: 5'8
    Weight: 175lbs
    Bodyfat: 9% (measured with calipers 3 weeks ago)
    TDEE: ~2900 cals ( I work hard labor 40+ hours/week)
    Lifting Experience: Roughly 5 years
    I workout 5-6 days/week depending on my job (long days).

    Bench: 295x1
    Deadlift: 500x1
    Squat: 365x3

    I am currently in week 1 of my first ever AAS cycle and I am looking for some advice. I have been at a plateau for roughly 5 months and my big three lifts haven't really seen any significant progress now for some time. My macros are on par and I am currently trying to eat at ~500cal above maintenance. I do not party excessively and have drank alcohol maybe twice in the past 12 months.

    My first shots were not the best; Monday I hit my right quad and could barely walk Tuesday, and was actually limping at work. By Tuesday night some redness had appeared around the injection site and continued to grow to about 4-5 inches in diameter. I noticed the redness had begun to subside around Thursday night/Friday morning and the pain was gone within 2 days. My Thursday shot was in my left deltoid and went better than the first, however, there was some bleeding at the injection site. Today my shoulder was sore but tolerable for the most part. It is now Friday night and I see the same redness appearing near the injection site on my deltoid that has already spread halfway down my bicep. I am using a 25ga 1" needle to inject, making sure to swab the vial and injection site before and after. I also massage the muscle after injection to try and spread the oil better. In both instances, the day following my injections, I have been experiencing extreme flu-like symptoms which seem to only be cured temporarily by taking 800mg ibuprofen. This includes fatigue, light headiness and general lethargy. I actually had to take the day off from the gym due to the combination of PIP and 'test flu'... With that said, here is my planned cycle:

    Weeks 1-10: 1cc Testosterone Enanthate 2x per week on Mon, Thurs (250mg/mL)
    Weeks 1-10: Arimidex /Anastrozole 0.25mg EOD (Mon, Wed, Fri)
    Weeks 2-10 (?): Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG ) 250iu 2x per week (Mon, Thurs)
    Weeks 12-16: 60mg Raloxifene ED
    Weeks 12-16: Clomid (?)

    Supplements:
    Strong Multivitamin
    Super Concentrate Fish Oils
    Creatine Monohydrate
    Beta Alanine
    Agmatine Sulfate
    Whey Protein
    ALA
    Roaccutane/Isotretinoin (on hand)

    I am mainly looking for opinions on when to start my HCG injections. I believe that running HCG for too long may overstimulate the testes and cause desensitization, that is why I chose to start 14 days after my first shot and, since I am using a long ester, this should work fine, correct?

    As for PCT, my source is an friend & IFBB pro and told me that people in my area had recently began switching over to Raloxifene for PCT instead of Nolva, and recommended I try it. This seems to be a relatively new SERM and keep in mind I am running a decently high dosage at 60mg ED, and may also up my creatine dosage to 10g during this time. After extensive research, I plan to add Clomid to my PCT in order to get my HPTA up and running ASAP, would anybody be able to give a breakdown of the dosing? Thoughts?

    As for my age, I know I am still young and that it could be dangerous messing with my endocrine system. I am very open to your opinions on this but you can post your thoughts without being an ass.
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    Damnit I wish you could PM. Can you elaborate with respect to Ralox for PCT? Other than myself, I've never heard of anyone bringing this up with regards to PCT. Really curious on this person's thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Damnit I wish you could PM. Can you elaborate with respect to Ralox for PCT? Other than myself, I've never heard of anyone bringing this up with regards to PCT. Really curious on this person's thoughts.
    I have been doing some research and I am more than likely going to add in Clomid to stimulate HPTA, this should give me the best of both worlds so I can get my natty production back up and running ASAP.

    I would like to hear other members opinions also.

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    Well that didn't answer anything. lol. Ok. If you talk to the person who recommended ralox, please ask them for any details as to why Ralox for PCT.

    Thanks and good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Well that didn't answer anything. lol. Ok. If you talk to the person who recommended ralox, please ask them for any details as to why Ralox for PCT.

    Thanks and good luck.
    There's not much info on Ralox I am still doing research myself. I do know it is the best SERM for treating gyno.

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    Ugh. Now I'm confused. So you want to use Ralox, but don't have any info. Wouldn't you want to ask the person who recommended it? Surely he has to have reasons for recommending it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Ugh. Now I'm confused. So you want to use Ralox, but don't have any info. Wouldn't you want to ask the person who recommended it? Surely he has to have reasons for recommending it.
    I didn't necessarily choose it right off the bat, just took my sources advice, who recommended Ralox. But I will contact him and find out the exact benefits of running it during PCT. I know for sure I will need to run Clomid alongside to kickstart my test production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheeer View Post

    I didn't necessarily choose it right off the bat, just took my sources advice, who recommended Ralox. But I will contact him and find out the exact benefits of running it during PCT. I know for sure I will need to run Clomid alongside to kickstart my test production.
    You should be doing research not asking your source dude. Your drug dealer will sell you what he has and the information he offers, right or wrong, would be to support the sale, not necessarily the efficacy.

    If you ask a car salesman, "do I need this feature", very few are likely to say no especially if selling you that feature means a greater commission on sales.

    Your dealer is interested in your money, not what's necessarily correct from a medical or safety point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    You should be doing research not asking your source dude. Your drug dealer will sell you what he has and the information he offers, right or wrong, would be to support the sale, not necessarily the efficacy.

    If you ask a car salesman, "do I need this feature", very few are likely to say no especially if selling you that feature means a greater commission on sales.

    Your dealer is interested in your money, not what's necessarily correct from a medical or safety point of view.
    I trust my dealer as I have been friends with him for quite a while, and he charges the same price for nolva and raloxifene. I have done the research and decided I will add in Clomid.

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    Bicep is quite swollen today...been ~3 days since delt injection

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    I found that during my first cycle I would experience swelling and redness with my first few shots. I never pinned my delts but with some research I grabbed a few longer needles for my glutes to make sure I was gettin past the fat and into the muscle. Swelling never came back, and no more redness. Could have been the longer needle or could have just been virgin muscle.

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