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    Too high Estrogen

    Can too high Estrogen negate the effects of high testosterone while on cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey24 View Post
    Can too high Estrogen negate the effects of high testosterone while on cycle?
    They just need to be controlled or they can cause sides like bloat,,water retention,,,gyno,,etc,..
    We need SOME estrogen to stay healthy and grow.

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    The more you convert T to E the less T you have available. Negate, no. Mitigate, yes. What Alin said ^^^.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    The more you convert T to E the less T you have available. Negate, no. Mitigate, yes. What Alin said ^^^.
    I agree although I have had people try to tell me differently although when I ran test (RX) at a little over 500mg a week my Free test was 53 (7.2 - 24) and total was 1415 (348-1197) but my Sensitive E2 was 379 pg/mL (3-70)

    I had another time with similar results so to me this proves that if you have High E2 your most likely have a lot lower Testosterone than you should thus reducing gains. My test levels should have been 3x what they were.

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    Estrogen is the protector of muscle.

    You grow muscle via damaging the microfibres and healing them. Testosteron increases nitrogen retention and healing rate.

    If your estrogen is high the amount of damage you do will be reduced with same workout at lower estrogen levels. If you want details from an expert Dan Duchane has a detailed write up in the steroid bible on using higher estrogen levels on a high clen cycle for max growth and least catabolism. Some of it has changed since the invent of Tren but Dan is the Steroid Guru for 50 years...I would put his word over anyones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    Estrogen is the protector of muscle.

    You grow muscle via damaging the microfibres and healing them. Testosteron increases nitrogen retention and healing rate.

    If your estrogen is high the amount of damage you do will be reduced with same workout at lower estrogen levels. If you want details from an expert Dan Duchane has a detailed write up in the steroid bible on using higher estrogen levels on a high clen cycle for max growth and least catabolism. Some of it has changed since the invent of Tren but Dan is the Steroid Guru for 50 years...I would put his word over anyones.
    I used to get his "Underground Steroid Handbook" back in the day. Damn, brings back memories.
    Is he still alive btw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I used to get his "Underground Steroid Handbook" back in the day. Damn, brings back memories.
    Is he still alive btw?
    He died back in like 2000 from kidney failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    He died back in like 2000 from kidney failure.
    Well, something's gonna get all of us....eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Well, something's gonna get all of us....eventually.
    Yeah he was young, like 48 or something. He was a genius in a mad scientist kind of way but had some issues man. Serious morphine addiction among other things. Still have the Underground Steroid Handbook, was one of the first things I ever read about steroids and ancillaries etc.

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    Both he and it were trailblazers.
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