Mike Shlort's Progress Log

[MikeShlort]

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[ElGringo]

non PIP after first ever injection in quad?
i could barely walk the day after my first injection both in left and right quad. both times it felt like i got destroyed by a pro kickboxer.
anyway, good luck bro. currently running the same cycle as you.
no need to inject HCG sub-q, i inject IM.

and i know most people here will disagree but i'd kickstart with test prop eod for the first 3 weeks. at least i know i wish i had done it

[Times Roman]

Much better!

Through fat or into fat?

Sometimes when I place the needle, it seems more sensitive than other times. Pretty simple. I just pick a new spot. Sometimes I have to do this twice, every once in a while, thrice. Then I just wiggle it in there. No slamming for me.

[bhmyers1968]

Much better!

Through fat or into fat?

Sometimes when I place the needle, it seems more sensitive than other times. Pretty simple. I just pick a new spot. Sometimes I have to do this twice, every once in a while, thrice. Then I just wiggle it in there. No slamming for me.

Human pin cushion. I'm pretty gentle, find a spot that's not sore, (often difficult) and gradually apply force..... and I too have had to re-stick......I guess its par for the course.......

[enzo729]

I'm also on the same cycle as you. Good luck! I do separate HCG shots as well. What works for me is grabbing a horizontal fold of belly fat 1" away from the navel and injecting with the slin pin into that. Never had a painful injection this way and I just alternate left and right every injection. Easy.

[Capebuffalo]

What did you reconstitute the hcg with?

[Mp859]

What did you reconstitute the hcg with?

tap water? Lol

I've never heard of pain like that from hcg injection.

[Capebuffalo]

tap water? Lol

I've never heard of pain like that from hcg injection.

Ive been thinking about that. I bet he didn't let the alcohol from the swab dry before he pinned. That's a nice burn.

[qscgugcsq]

HCG is painless, and subQ injection is painless... no matter who you are...

you cant feel more pain with subQ than IM... do not make sense.

you clearly did something wrong...

to inject IM you must get through the skin, the fat and into the muscle.
SubQ is through the skin into the fat...

you use smaller needle, break less.tissus, go less deep, and water based compound disapear way faster than oil.

you certainly did something wrong... cause it should not hurt more than IM...

[MikeShlort]

non PIP after first ever injection in quad?
i could barely walk the day after my first injection both in left and right quad. both times it felt like i got destroyed by a pro kickboxer.
anyway, good luck bro. currently running the same cycle as you.
no need to inject HCG sub-q, i inject IM.

and i know most people here will disagree but i'd kickstart with test prop eod for the first 3 weeks. at least i know i wish i had done it

Ok now two days later, it hurts more. Feels kinda like a mild charlie horse. Def would not be able to work legs today. Maybe I'll try IM for hcg but I don't know where else to inject other than belly fat?

[MikeShlort]

Much better!

Through fat or into fat?

Sometimes when I place the needle, it seems more sensitive than other times. Pretty simple. I just pick a new spot. Sometimes I have to do this twice, every once in a while, thrice. Then I just wiggle it in there. No slamming for me.

Into fat, not through it.

[MikeShlort]

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[Capebuffalo]

Ok now two days later, it hurts more. Feels kinda like a mild charlie horse. Def would not be able to work legs today. Maybe I'll try IM for hcg but I don't know where else to inject other than belly fat?

Not in belly fat. Pinch you skin to the side of your belly button with your finger and thumb. Pull it out as far as it will go. It should look like a tee-pee. Just a bit higher than the base of the tee- pee you want to inject. Push the needle till you fill a little pop. Push the plunger. That is between the top of the muscle and the bottom of the fat and skin. In between is where you want to be. Not in the fat. That's not sub q.

[MikeShlort]

HCG is painless, and subQ injection is painless... no matter who you are...

you cant feel more pain with subQ than IM... do not make sense.

you clearly did something wrong...

to inject IM you must get through the skin, the fat and into the muscle.
SubQ is through the skin into the fat...

you use smaller needle, break less.tissus, go less deep, and water based compound disapear way faster than oil.

you certainly did something wrong... cause it should not hurt more than IM...

Initial pain from hcg was worse than the test IM, but after a cpl min it went away completely, while my leg is sore nearly 48 hours later from test injection.

[MikeShlort]

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[Capebuffalo]

Okay... I will need a longer needle then because I have some thick belly fat. Maybe I'll just do IM. Where do you suggest to go?

Go somewhere you have less fat. What's your bf%?

[MikeShlort]

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[Times Roman]

Ive been thinking about that. I bet he didn't let the alcohol from the swab dry before he pinned. That's a nice burn.

I use an atomizer to apply alcohol to my injection site. It's rarely dry when I pin, as I apply a liberal amount, and it's only stung from the alcohol only a few out of thousands of times......

[MikeShlort]

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[tarmyg]

The "sterile diluent" it came with. I assume it's sterile water. The only concern is the stuff says for veterinary use only on the bottle.. Maybe it's acidic? "Chorulon" is the product name, company is Intervet Canada Corp.

Also, I completely forgot to wipe alcohol on injection site so that can't be it..

This is one time use Sterile Water and needs to be mixed with Benzyl Alcohol if you want to store it. The water will not last more than a few days at the most and after that the pain will just increase with each HCG shot. Google this problem and you will see it is a common one. You will need new HCG afaik but maybe a VET knows better.

[MikeShlort]

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[MikeShlort]

2 700 Calories/day

Protein: 220g = 880 cal.
Carbs: 275g = 1100 cal.
Fat: 80g = 720 cal.

[MikeShlort]

Rough Copy - Diet (To Be Edited)

Wake Up:

1 scoop cytogreens (can't find macros)

Breakfast:

2 hard boiled eggs - Protein: 12g = 48 cal
Carbs: 2g = 8 cal
Fat: 10g = 90 cal

1/2 cup oatmeal - Protein: 5g = 20 cal
Carb: 25g = 100 cal
Fat: 2.5g = 22 cal

1/3 Cup Strawberries - Carb: 4g = 16 cal

Total:

Protein: 17g = 68 cal
Carb: 31g = 124 cal
Fat: 12.5g = 112 cal

Snack:

1 Med. Banana - Protein: 1g = 4 cal
Carb: 27g = 108 cal

1 Med. Apple - Carb: 25g = 100 cal

Total:

Protein: 1g = 4 cal
Carb: 52g = 210 cal



Adjustments could include - Isolate Protein, unflavoured in water
Bigger servings (1-2 extra eggs)
Protein Bar


Lunch:

1 Can Tuna - Protein: 15g = 60 cal

1 tbsp Olive Oil Mayo - Fat: 5g = 45 cal

1/2 Cup Mixed Nuts - Protein: 25g = 100 cal
Carb: 25g = 100 cal
Fat: 35g = 315 cal (Rofl)

1 Cup broccoli - Protein: 2g = 8 cal
Carb: 7g = 28 cal

2/3 Cup 0% Cottage Cheese - Protein: 10g = 40 cal
Carb: 7g = 28 cal

2 Cups Spinach - Protein: 2g = 8cal
Carb: 2g = 8 cal

Total:

Protein: 54g = 216 cal
Carb: 41g = 164 cal
Fag: 40g = 360 cal (Lol)

Snack:

1 Med. Banana - Protein: 1g = 4 cal
Carb: 27g = 108 cal

2 tbsp Peanut Butter - Protein: 6g = 24 cal
Carb: 6g = 24 cal
Fat: 16g = 144 cal (Lmao)

1 Piece Ezekiel Toast - Protein: 4g = 16 cal
Carb: 14g = 56 cal

1 tbsp Honey - Carb: 17g = 72 cal

Total:

Protein: 11g = 44 cal
Carb: 64g = 256 cal
Fat: 16g = 144 cal

During Workout:

1 Scoop Vitagro - Carb: 35g = 140 cal

Post Workout:

1 Scoop Allmax Isolate - Protein: 28g = 112 cal

[Capebuffalo]

I use an atomizer to apply alcohol to my injection site. It's rarely dry when I pin, as I apply a liberal amount, and it's only stung from the alcohol only a few out of thousands of times......

That's great. Unfortunately if I don't blow on it or let it evaporate it burns me like fire.

[numbere]

I don't mean to be a dick but a progress log is worthless to readers without weight, measurements, or photos. Would also be nice to know your goals. I'm going to assume that your cutting weight based on your breakfast.

[MikeShlort]

[QUOTE=numbere;6908651]I ergare

[Times Roman]

Current Diet:

180lbs, 19% bf (probably lower but putting it higher to err. on the low side)

Intention: Lean Bulk (Done it before)

2 700 Calories/day - hardly seems like it would cover your TDEE, let alone sufficient to classify as a "clean bulk"?
Protein: 220g = 880 cal. - why so frugal with the protein intake?
Carbs: 275g = 1100 cal. - why so heavy into the carbs relative to the other two?
Fat: 80g = 720 cal.

That stuff is under construction.

Anyone here freeze hCG needles and use em later?

what are they, like 12 cents each?


need the rest of your stats, like height and age. You may have provided, I just don't see it

[numbere]

That stuff is under construction.

It's not difficult to step on a scale and take some measurements. Without stats this isn't a progress log, it's just a thread with you asking questions.

Anyone here freeze hCG needles and use em later?

Technically reconstituted hCG will be viable after freezing. I wouldn't recommend freezing as it will likely cause degradation. Just buy some indictable grade BA.

[MikeShlort]

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