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    taper up my trenbolone ?

    next cycle im going to be using sustanon & trenbolone . i have never used tren before and i know the general rule is to go with ace first time round but i cannot face the frequent pinning for my next cycle, last cycle was prop & npp which was a pain after a while from the EOD injections, i was going to use 750mg sustanon (might drop to 500mg) with 400mg trenbolone enanthate pinned mon/thurs however as im going with tren e would it be wise to start out with 200mg a week and taper up ? its time to give tren a tickle !! hope the results are as good as they say !

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    Insulin ,gh,test,tren ,eq?

    You are all over the place bro.

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    dont worry mate im not rushing anything here, im clued on i just like to ask questions & gain knowledge, gh might be a pipeline dream due to the price and slin i just wanted a few big boys advice incase i decide to go down that route which is something ive been concidering this last year. as for eq i think im guna leave it as il get flammed for using cycle isnt for another 4-5 weeks yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanmachine6
    dont worry mate im not rushing anything here, im clued on i just like to ask questions & gain knowledge, gh might be a pipeline dream due to the price and slin i just wanted a few big boys advice incase i decide to go down that route which is something ive been concidering this last year. as for eq i think im guna leave it as il get flammed for using cycle isnt for another 4-5 weeks yet
    What's your cycle experience look like?

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    ive got 4 cycles under my belt
    first was prop & anavar 8 weeks
    second enanthate & deca 10 weeks
    third enanthate & deca & anadrol 12 weeks
    fourth prop, npp & winstrol 8 weeks
    i find i feel bigger & better when on slower acting compounds too tbh, all followed with good pct and time off between

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanmachine6
    ive got 4 cycles under my belt first was prop & anavar 8 weeks second enanthate & deca 10 weeks third enanthate & deca & anadrol 12 weeks fourth prop, npp & winstrol 8 weeks i find i feel bigger & better when on slower acting compounds too tbh, all followed with good pct and time off between
    What are you stats? Something seems off. Idk why.

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    25 started my first cycle at 23 which may have been a mistake however i had blood work done after second cycle and all was great
    6'1 (in shoes)
    weighed myself today and was 91kg's
    bodyfat is roughly 13-14% was 10% about 3 weeks back but upped my carbs alot but still see the abs just about
    my goal isnt to get as big and heavy as possible as i found that weight on scales doesnt count for much its how you look in the mirror, i want to add more lean mass and increase my strength alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanmachine6
    25 started my first cycle at 23 which may have been a mistake however i had blood work done after second cycle and all was great 6'1 (in shoes) weighed myself today and was 91kg's bodyfat is roughly 13-14% was 10% about 3 weeks back but upped my carbs alot but still see the abs just about
    6'1" 200lbs? 4 cycles? Brother something is off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859
    6'1" 200lbs? 4 cycles? Brother something is off.
    Agree^^^

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    before i used to cycle much more for vanity & would go out boozing every weekend it was onlt 3 months ago i quit the drink and now its gym,food even at weekends ! i am a sociable guy so yea probally went out too much when preveously cycled but not anymore as i found after a while the gains go even from one night a week of drink and then a day in bed hanging on the sunday ! thats all come to an end now as im more sereous about training & grown up abit over the last couple years.

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    I would put a little more sober time in the gym before I ran more gear. That's just me though.

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    exactly what im doing, never had a drink problem or anything but loved a night out like everyone my age does, but 3 months ago i decided BB was somwthing i wanted to take more sereous, put more money and time into so cut the drink and at the moment im eating,sleeping,training repeating. cant do better than that !
    Last edited by leanmachine6; 08-21-2014 at 02:51 PM.

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    To your original question, I would say no. The Tren E is going to take 4 weeks to kick in. If you wait to taper up you will be half way through the cycle. Just my opinion.

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    I would just run it at 400 mgs a week. Dont taper it up or down.

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    400mg a week of tren enanthate is a good dose for a first time tren user isnt it chaps ?

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    I've never ran it but from what I've read here 400 mg/week is probably too much for a first time user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanmachine6 View Post
    400mg a week of tren enanthate is a good dose for a first time tren user isnt it chaps ?
    you won't know until you try.

    it's not the dose and your physiologocial response that has many so concerned. it's the sides. some are really sensitive, like myself, and even half that dose makes controlling my impulsive behavior difficult. I find I pop off with emotional bursts, and interrupt people talking, with sudden waves of anger out of nowhere.

    From my perspective, I would recommend half that dose and see where it takes you.

    If you don't get the "Asshole of the year" award, then next time you can consider a higher dose.

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    Lmao im starting tren at 1859mg a week...damn man why u think u need 400mg?,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman
    you won't know until you try. it's not the dose and your physiologocial response that has many so concerned. it's the sides. some are really sensitive, like myself, and even half that dose makes controlling my impulsive behavior difficult. I find I pop off with emotional bursts, and interrupt people talking, with sudden waves of anger out of nowhere. From my perspective, I would recommend half that dose and see where it takes you. If you don't get the "Asshole of the year" award, then next time you can consider a higher dose.
    I win this award everytime. That's why my only friend is the gym nowadays.

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    all this talk is making me possibly concider running just a 6 week prop/tren ace cycle of 100mg of each eod to see how i respond. couldnt cope with more than 6 weeks of eod pinning. however i was looking forward to a 10-12 week cycle but then again thers no rush. what to expect result wise with prop/tren at 100mg of each eod if diet & training is spot on ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanmachine6
    all this talk is making me possibly concider running just a 6 week prop/tren ace cycle of 100mg of each eod to see how i respond. couldnt cope with more than 6 weeks of eod pinning. however i was looking forward to a 10-12 week cycle but then again thers no rush. what to expect result wise with prop/tren at 100mg of each eod if diet & training is spot on ?
    30lbs of solid muscle.

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    i wish ! lol ^ & an extra 2 inches on my cock i bet too yea ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanmachine6
    i wish ! lol ^ & an extra 2 inches on my cock i bet too yea ?
    No your penis with shrivel up.

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    can afford an inch or 2 so no worries, but jokes aside would my gains be similar doing a 6 week cycle of prop and tren ace to say a 10 week cycle of sust & tren E

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanmachine6 View Post
    next cycle im going to be using sustanon & trenbolone. i have never used tren before and i know the general rule is to go with ace first time round but i cannot face the frequent pinning for my next cycle, last cycle was prop & npp which was a pain after a while from the EOD injections, i was going to use 750mg sustanon (might drop to 500mg) with 400mg trenbolone enanthate pinned mon/thurs however as im going with tren e would it be wise to start out with 200mg a week and taper up ? its time to give tren a tickle !! hope the results are as good as they say !
    If you have never used TREN before go low dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz
    Lmao im starting tren at 1859mg a week...damn man why u think u need 400mg?,
    1859mg? Where did that number come from? That's a shit load of tren .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougiefresh7707 View Post
    1859mg? Where did that number come from? That's a shit load of tren.
    Its a joke. Im doing 50mg eod.

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    After being on tren for a while I start to think 4 or 5 hours of sleep is normal!

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    yea im a baby when it comes to sleep, hope this compound wont mess my routine up !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz
    Its a joke. Im doing 50mg eod.
    Oh nice lol I'm on 50mg ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Lmao im starting tren at 1859mg a week...damn man why u think u need 400mg?,
    a real man would step up and do a full 2 grams a week! =)

    ...and then go find some other country to start WW3 in!!!

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    2oo mg pw and i was having road rage, and thats about the third time i used it

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    I got great results from 200mg/week of tren e with 600 mg/week of test 300. I say run 200mg/week of tren e for 12 weeks with test, then asses how that cycle went and decide where to go from there.

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    OP you can make some really good gains with some low dosages of tren . Start your cycle with whatever dosage your going to run the entire cycle. That way you can see how you handle the side effects of tren. Start low and hopefully little to no sides.

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    i can get a multi-ester trenbolone which is 150mg/ml or tren enanthate which is 200mg/ml il be getting 2 x 10ml bottles of eaither one so i guess if i was to go with the multi ester trenbolond i could just run 300mg a week for 10 weeks which is a slightly lower dosage

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    Don't use the blends. Especially Tren .

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    just go with streight enanthate then ? do you mind me asking why shouldnt you use blends ??

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