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    yankees082014 is offline New Member
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    First Cycle Thoughts and Opinions

    Hi guys, I'm ready to start my first cycle and wanted to get your opinions on what I'm trying to do. I've done a lot of research and think I have a pretty solid cycle set up, but want further insight. After reading many forums, I've realized that these often turn into arguments between members or insults thrown at the original person who posted. I'm reaching out to everyone please respond in a helpful matter. Thank you in advance.

    Age: 26
    Height : 5' 8
    Weight 170-175
    BF %: 12-13%
    Bench: 255
    Squat: 335 - Haven't squatted in 2 months, coming off tendon injury, will be fully healed by the time I cycle.
    Deadlift: 365
    Training for 8 years on and off, 3.5 years solid.

    Current Diet - Pretty Clean
    (Give or take 10%):
    Around 3,000 calories
    Protein: 300 grams
    Carbs: 200 grams

    Proposed Diet - Clean
    (Give or take 10%):
    Around 5,000 Calories
    Protein: 400 grams
    Carbs: 600 grams

    Proposed Cycle: (Starting in 3-4 weeks)

    W 1-4: Dbol 10mg 3XD (Every 4-5 Hours)
    W 1-10: Test E 250mg E3D (Taken in the AM)
    W 1-12: Adex .25mg EOD (0.125 EOD in last week)

    Ancillaries:
    W 1-12: Nolva 20mg/d (if gyno symptoms appear)
    W 1-10: Caber .5mg 2XW (if I have prolactin issues)

    PCT:
    W 13: Clomid 50mg 2XD
    W 14-16 Clomid 25mg 1XD
    W 11-14 HCG 3000 iu E5D - 1 week after last shot - Taken in the AM

    Also Taking
    LaCheek Cycle Armor
    LaCheek PCT AD-3
    Daily Multi

    Again just looking for helpful tips, possible results. And also if my times that I take these things are all right. I did a lot of research on this and just want further guidance. Thank you.

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    That's much better than most of the first cycles that get proposed on here. For a first cycle I would drop the dbol and just run test. You need to find out how your body response to test first and the only way to do that is to run it as a stand alone.

    If you control your E2 there is no reason for the caber. Have blood work done at week 6 to make sure your E2 is under control.

    Save the Nolva for PCT and use it 40/40/20/20.

    Here is the biggest mistake you made. Take the HcG 250iu twice a week during the cycle starting from week one.

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    You dont need caber. And your pct is not including antiestrogen. Clomid and hcg increase testo which increase aromataz activity. So you should use nolva on pct. And hcg on pct is old style. During cycle would help better.

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    Ok great thanks. Two more questions. Why run HCG during cycle? My understanding is that HCG sends signals to your testes to start producing again. But wouldn't taking that during cycle be counter productive since they are being told to turn off due to the test? Also anyone have any experience with Organon hcg? Is it good quality?

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    He helps your boys to not turn into raisins causing pain and you stay producing live sperm instead of possibly blanks.

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    Also anyone have any experience with Organon hcg ? quality?

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    yankees082014 is offline New Member
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    After reading more into this I have decided to just stay natty. Didn't realize how many sides I could potentially get. Plus potential legal issues. Thanks for your help guys.

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