my 24 week cycle plan

**flyguy6661** · 08-10-2014, 03:51 AM

okay so im going to try and enter a bodybuilding show next year at some point, for fun, motivation and i believe i could do quite well for a first show. im going to do a 25 week cycle of aas, GH, and slin. have a rough cycle plan and layout but bearing in mind this isnt set in stone and wont be starting this till chrismas time roughly.

week 1-10 1000mg testosterone a week
week 1-10 400mg trenbolone enanthate a week
week 10-20 500mg testosterone a week
week 10-20 400mg masteron enanthate a week
week 10-20 500mg eq a week
week 20-25 100mg prop EOD
week 20-25 100mg tren ace EOD
week 20-25 100mg masteron prop EOD
week 20-25 100mg oral winnt ED
week 1-25 3-4 IU's pharma grade GH mon-friday AM
week 1-10 10iu's navorapid slin Post workouts. starting at 4 iu's gradually tapering up to 10
week 1-25 arimidex 1mg E3D
will shoot some hcg before PCT and will do a aggresvie PCT too of clomid & nolva for 6 weeks

over the 25 weeks im only using 5 different compounds, first 10 weeks will be a serous bulk, not all clean and last 15 weeks will be cutting, last 5 weeks will be extremely strict too. what do you guys think. the GH is going to cost me qite abit but will 4iu's over 25 weeks give good results ?? like i said im entering a comp not sure what yet but suggested by a freind of mine who also does this kind of stuff so thought id give it a go. what does my cycle plan look like and are there any changes that SHOULD be made do you think ? ive tried to keep it as simple as possible to be honest and its only the last 5 weeks il be using 4 compounds but thats mainly as il be low on cals and trying to get as lean as possible !!

let me know boys.

**lovbyts** · 08-10-2014, 04:02 AM

Why are you here? You have been told MANY many time your to young (21) and most every cycle you suggested over the last few months is a mess just like this one. You have learned nothing from your previous post or you are just a troll with nothing better to do.

ordering in my next cycle, what you think ?

last 30 days of cycle, sereous cutting ! hoping to dry right up !

last 6 weeks of my cycle, test/tren/mast !

**PistolPete33** · 08-10-2014, 05:11 AM

A 21 year old with a 6 month cycle. BRILLIANT. There is no recovering from this. A silly bodybuilding contest that will destroy your HPTA for life. Good choice.

**lovbyts** · 08-10-2014, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by PistolPete33

A 21 year old with a 6 month cycle. BRILLIANT. There is no recovering from this. A silly bodybuilding contest that will destroy your HPTA for life. Good choice.

Even if he wasnt 21 the whole thing is a mess and his past post show he has no idea what he is doing and just throwing stuff together.

**marcus300** · 08-10-2014, 05:35 AM

OMG give me strength.....

Lovbyts got this covered

**lovbyts** · 08-10-2014, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

OMG give me strength.....

Lovbyts got this covered

Oh dont leave me alone on this one big guy. I think this is the guy who claims he shares the account with his little brother and he is older although all the post are from him? lol

Maybe this is one of those times we should just say go for it to make and example out of him later and add to the wall of shame cycles?

**marcus300** · 08-10-2014, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Oh dont leave me alone on this one big guy. I think this is the guy who claims he shares the account with his little brother and he is older although all the post are from him? lol

Maybe this is one of those times we should just say go for it to make and example out of him later and add to the wall of shame cycles?

read some of his older threads lol

**almostgone** · 08-10-2014, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Even if he wasnt 21 the whole thing is a mess and his past post show he has no idea what he is doing and just throwing stuff together.

Whole thing looks about as f##cked up as a football bat...

**marcus300** · 08-10-2014, 07:08 AM

cycle is horrendous,
your gh isn't pharm grade its pharm grade copy like you have been told before, there are thousands of them about in the UK,
you don't need slin and you don't no how to run it,
your to young to cycle,
you don't no how to train properly yet,
you don't know how to eat correctly yet,
you have been abusing steroids for a long time with very little time off, what do you think its going happen soon?
listen to the answers in all your previous threads and you will learn how to build muscle naturally and keep it instead of thinking steroids are the answer all the time.

**RangerDanger830** · 08-10-2014, 07:57 AM

I don't know what you guys are talking about but I think those doses are for punks. All the real bodybuilders know that you need at least 2g of Tren ED.

**austinite** · 08-10-2014, 08:05 AM

lol. That's cute.

**Cuz** · 08-10-2014, 08:15 AM

Forget about pct as it wont help you will never recover fully...what are your stats? I agree with everyone else its a train wreck. 21 yo? Just no.

**flyguy6661** · 08-10-2014, 09:24 AM

25 yo if you check ! and as for not knowing how to train, eat etc i could post my current ciet plan and training and prove you all completely wrong ! as for my gh it most deffo is the real deal. whats with all the flaming

**RangerDanger830** · 08-10-2014, 09:29 AM

Stats?

**lovbyts** · 08-10-2014, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by RangerDanger830

I don't know what you guys are talking about but I think those doses are for punks. All the real bodybuilders know that you need at least 2g of Tren ED.

I take back most everything I said about you. I like the way you think.

**Cuz** · 08-10-2014, 09:33 AM

Profile says 21 . And those stats? Better yet pics. You are entering a show right?

**Jcz85** · 08-10-2014, 09:34 AM

I'm about to do a 32 week crack cycle, I want to fit in a size 26 waist for my high school reunion

**RangerDanger830** · 08-10-2014, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I take back most everything I said about you. I like the way you think.

lol...wait...what are you saying about me?

**Back In Black** · 08-10-2014, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by RangerDanger830

Stats?

He has lost about 10lbs of muscle since he started cutting with a heavy cycle and a great diet plan.

Lmao, go for it flyguy you never listen to any of the good advice given to you anyway. And you still think HCG is for PCT, ha ha ha ha ha ha

**Jcz85** · 08-10-2014, 10:25 AM

Are there groupies for these muscle competition things? That would be the only reason I would consider it...

**tarmyg** · 08-10-2014, 11:04 AM

According to previous posts you ended your cut on July 31. What was the beginning and end stats of that?

Thanks
~T

**marcus300** · 08-10-2014, 11:14 AM

First cycle stats in 2011

Originally Posted by flyguy6661

STATS:
age:21
height:6'
weight:180lb's
bodyfat:10%
training: 3 years naturall
starting my first cycle monday (lean bulk)

.week 1-8 pinning propionate 100mg EOD left glute/right glute/left quad/right quad/left shoulder/right shoulder.
.week 1-8 anavar 50mg ED
PCT
.week 8-12 nolvadex 40/40/20/20
.week 8-12 clomid 100/100/50/50
AI - arimidex (wont use unless i have to)

GOAL: add about 10-12 lb's lean muscle & drop down to about 8% b.f

DIET: 30% protein/50% carbs/20% natty fats
main protein source: egg whites,fish,chicken breasts & cottage cheese
main carb source: Oats,brown rice & bananas
main fat source: avacardo pear,nuts, extra virgin olive oil & PB
consuming 5-6 meals ED & roughly 3500 caleries ED

TRAINING:
monday:chest & abs
tuesday:back & planks
wednesday:legs & abs
thursday:shoulders & planks
friday:arms & abs
each session lasting no more than 1 hour and also followed with 10 minutes fast run on treadmill.

SUPPLEMENTS: multivitamin & iso2 nutrition weight gainer shake

will post some pics up soon !!

After about 5 cycles current stats are in 2014 with an increase of bf by 3%

Originally Posted by flyguy6661

24
6'
im thinking about 11-13% b,f now
weighing just under 14 stone - 196
& bloody hungry !!!!!!!!!
haha yea had this day planned, looking forward to it like i said wasnt going to go too over board and just have chips, pizza cake etc but was going to binge out still but on half decent stuff. been eating about 2000cals atm a day and tomorow probally would hit around 5000cals i would have thought. will it set me back that much, wont do it again for a little while. so far diets working great, just seem to be loosing fat and water weight

cheers for the responce too bud

Simple you don't know how to train properly, design steroid cycles or eat right to gain mass and build tissue. Its all over your previous threads. You started abusing steroids at a young age for zero benefit. you went from 180 bs at 10% to 196 at 13% you work out the maths and you will see its not steroids you need you need to learn how to train properly and eat right.

ps, if you think your gh is fine you carry on lol ......I know for a fact it isn't if you get it from the UK

**Mp859** · 08-10-2014, 12:02 PM

The differences from cycling on a shitty diet and a perfect diet are astronomical.

**MuscleInk** · 08-10-2014, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

First cycle stats in 2011

After about 5 cycles current stats are in 2014 with an increase of bf by 3%

Simple you don't know how to train properly, design steroid cycles or eat right to gain mass and build tissue. Its all over your previous threads. You started abusing steroids at a young age for zero benefit. you went from 180 bs at 10% to 196 at 13% you work out the maths and you will see its not steroids you need you need to learn how to train properly and eat right.

ps, if you think your gh is fine you carry on lol ......I know for a fact it isn't if you get it from the UK

Flyguy,

It comes down to very simple choices. One, you can disregard and disrespect the knowledge of members who have had far more experience and understand not only of anabolic cycles but the real risks associated with abusive patterns of use (and many of us HAVE been down that very unpleasant road) or you can find a little humility and perhaps just once, heed the sound advice offered.

It's very easy to find your past threads and see your lack of knowledge about the basic fundamental requirements of proper nutrition and training. With all the cycles you have claimed to run and the stats you've posted, it is not hard to see you haven't had any real success to be boasting about. Enough of the nonsense too about you and your brother are sharing an account. If you really are serious about competing, you would be committed to a near perfect nutrition and training plan and be posting pics and stats that reflect PROGRESS. We haven't seen anything close to that.

To the senior members here, all you're doing is seeking approval for cycles you have no business running, and worse, cycles that WILL eventually cause problems for you and any other member who thinks your protocols are correct and could even remotely offer benefits greater than the inherent risks. You have no business even proposing such a ridiculous and reckless cycle but if you want to be cavalier about your health risks, fine, go ahead and abuse your body but refrain from posting cycles that would put others at risk.

Many of us have tried the shit you are recommending and we were just as naive and ignorant thinking nothing could go wrong. The vast majority of us were sorely mistaken. You could learn from our mistakes instead of repeating them but it's clear our words fall on your deaf ears.

You won't get the affirmation you need. What you are proposing is unnecessary and dangerous. Proceed how you feel is appropriate, but do us all a favor and stop making threads that are of no benefit to people who take this stuff seriously and want real success not abusive indifference towards anabolics and physical fitness.

**Back In Black** · 08-10-2014, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

First cycle stats in 2011

After about 5 cycles current stats are in 2014 with an increase of bf by 3%

Simple you don't know how to train properly, design steroid cycles or eat right to gain mass and build tissue. Its all over your previous threads. You started abusing steroids at a young age for zero benefit. you went from 180 bs at 10% to 196 at 13% you work out the maths and you will see its not steroids you need you need to learn how to train properly and eat right.

ps, if you think your gh is fine you carry on lol ......I know for a fact it isn't if you get it from the UK

You're giving him credit Marcus, less than 2 weeks ago he weighed 187lbs at about 12-13% bodyfat. And it only took 5 cycles and 3 years to gain about 1lb of muscle and a few lbs of fat.

Kids a joke, others may call troll but I think he is a sad indictment of all that is wrong with steroid abuse in the young.

**marcus300** · 08-10-2014, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

You're giving him credit Marcus, less than 2 weeks ago he weighed 187lbs at about 12-13% bodyfat. And it only took 5 cycles and 3 years to gain about 1lb of muscle and a few lbs of fat.

Kids a joke, others may call troll but I think he is a sad indictment of all that is wrong with steroid abuse in the young.

Sorry I must of read an earlier post so he's put on 7 lbs on and increased bf by 3% after all that abuse lol that's even worse.....omfg

Once he learns to take his head out of his arse and listen to guys who know what they are doing he will start putting on serious tissue until then he's going to have serious problems and come down with one hell of a bump

**MuscleInk** · 08-10-2014, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

You're giving him credit Marcus, less than 2 weeks ago he weighed 187lbs at about 12-13% bodyfat. And it only took 5 cycles and 3 years to gain about 1lb of muscle and a few lbs of fat.

Kids a joke, others may call troll but I think he is a sad indictment of all that is wrong with steroid abuse in the young.

5 cycles and 1 lb of muscle. What an epic failure.

**Jcz85** · 08-10-2014, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

5 cycles and 1 lb of muscle. What an epic failure.

Did he **** a lot of girls tho

**MuscleInk** · 08-10-2014, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Jcz85

Did he **** a lot of girls tho

Chics will flock to money faster than they will to muscle...especially if the guy is nothing more than a muscle head douche.

**RangerDanger830** · 08-10-2014, 02:46 PM

Well according to his stats he doesn't have to worry about the musclehead part, douche remains to be seen pending his decision to ignore us and run the cycle which is considered outrageous.

I just can't wrap my head around the 5 cycle thing with minimal results to show for it. I have to admit that MuscleInk is right when he says most of us have tried outrageous cycles before, well I have once anyway.

The outrageous cycle I did was nowhere close to this and was only deca and test but it was very high doses of both. I had done 4 or 5 cycles and had good gains each time and was just getting over-confident.

At the end of the cycle I had a very long libido crash that ultimately contributed to a divorce as I did not have sex with her despite her being very willing. It also caused severe acne that left a few scars that will never go away. I got quite a bit of gyno from it that took months of SERM use to get rid of, and to top it all off I gained too fast off of the high doses that I worsened stretch marks and injured my right shoulder from lifting too heavy.

I am fairly young compared to most of these guys so the far-reaching effects of this poor cycle remain to be seen. I do believe choosing to cycle as early as I did and as recklessly as I did will bite me in the ass when I am older. My off cycle test levels are already on the low end of the normal ranges. I just do not want you to make the same mistakes I did. I know you know everything, but you really are in for a rude awakening.

**Jcz85** · 08-10-2014, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Chics will flock to money faster than they will to muscle...especially if the guy is nothing more than a muscle head douche.

I don't know man... When I wear nice fitted clothes and look sort of big I get good reactions from girls, much better than when I drove an expensive car and looked like generic early 20s white guy.

**MuscleInk** · 08-10-2014, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Jcz85

I don't know man... When I wear nice fitted clothes and look sort of big I get good reactions from girls, much better than when I drove an expensive car and looked like generic early 20s white guy.

Much more to money than the car you drive - spend a week in southern California and you'll see a lot of posers claiming to have an affluent lifestyle with their fancy cars and one bedroom apartments, lmao. I'm not saying you can be a 400lb, 40%bf rich guy and the girls will throw themselves at you. Most initial attractions are based on appearance (much more for men looking for women than women looking for men) but many women want a guy to spoil them and I don't mean a guy who takes them out for a pizza and movie lol.

It's also an age thing. When you're young dumb and full of cum almost any wet, warm hole will do. I didn't start using steroids until my late 30s and I got a lot more attention from girls in their early 20s than I did when I was in my early 20s. In fact, the better my physique started to look the MORE selective I became. It wasn't just a hot sexy girl I wanted but someone I could have fun with and enjoy their company. I wasn't looking to marry them, but I wanted something more than just a warm hole to sow my oats.

Anyway......off topic from this thread.

**Jcz85** · 08-10-2014, 06:50 PM

Well you're under the assumption I'm looking for a wife as opposed to looking for sex lol. Besides, I would never date a girl who was with me for strictly superficial reasons. I don't feel wanting a partner with good looks is superficial, I have only ever considered dating girls who are physically attractive, so I expect them to want the same. Plus I take a lot of pride in how I look, especially since I started working out.

OP is clearly a retard so I don't mind jacking his thread.. He just wants justification to be a drug addict.

**MuscleInk** · 08-10-2014, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Jcz85

Well you're under the assumption I'm looking for a wife as opposed to looking for sex lol. Besides, I would never date a girl who was with me for strictly superficial reasons. I don't feel wanting a partner with good looks is superficial, I have only ever considered dating girls who are physically attractive, so I expect them to want the same. Plus I take a lot of pride in how I look, especially since I started working out.

OP is clearly a retard so I don't mind jacking his thread.. He just wants justification to be a drug addict.

Nope, no assumptions. I've chased the hotties. Twice the drama. No thank you.

**lovbyts** · 08-10-2014, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by flyguy6661

25 yo if you check ! and as for not knowing how to train, eat etc i could post my current ciet plan and training and prove you all completely wrong ! as for my gh it most deffo is the real deal. whats with all the flaming

It's simple. If you were 30 and had done 10 cycles before we would tell you that your cycle idea is all messed up.