First cycle advice pleaseeee

**Tmb59181** · 08-21-2014, 05:50 PM

stats:

26 years old
195 pounds
5'11
Roughly 13% body fat

Cyp (500mg) either once a week or split 250 (Monday/Thurs) --Weeks 1-10

**Is leveling the blood levels with 2 injections the much preferred method with the long esters?

VAR (60-80 mg) ED -- weeks 6-10?

**Could use some advice on how to run the VAR...toward end of cycle? how many weeks? and should i Go up to 80 or stay at 60? Also should i end Test and VARat same time or Run VAR to PCT?

HCG (500IU) per week split (250iu 2x per week) --weeks 1-12

**Ive read a few forums saying that starting HCG at the beginning of the Cyp cycle is the best thing to do. Im not worried about cost...Could I have some HCG thoughts please

PCT

Clomid

Week 1: Clomid 150mg per day
Week 2: Clomid 150mg per day
Week 3: Clomid 100mg per day
Week 4: Clomid 100mg per day
Week 5: Clomid 50mg per day

Should I Get Adex instead? or will this suffice??

Im worried about GYNO

Thanks so much for all your help!!

**MuscleInk** · 08-21-2014, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Tmb59181

stats:

26 years old
195 pounds
5'11
Roughly 13% body fat

Cyp (500mg) either once a week or split 250 (Monday/Thurs) --Weeks 1-10

**Is leveling the blood levels with 2 injections the much preferred method with the long esters?

VAR (60-80 mg) ED -- weeks 6-10?

**Could use some advice on how to run the VAR...toward end of cycle? how many weeks? and should i Go up to 80 or stay at 60? Also should i end Test and VARat same time or Run VAR to PCT?

HCG (500IU) per week split (250iu 2x per week) --weeks 1-12

**Ive read a few forums saying that starting HCG at the beginning of the Cyp cycle is the best thing to do. Im not worried about cost...Could I have some HCG thoughts please

PCT

Clomid

Week 1: Clomid 150mg per day
Week 2: Clomid 150mg per day
Week 3: Clomid 100mg per day
Week 4: Clomid 100mg per day
Week 5: Clomid 50mg per day

Should I Get Adex instead? or will this suffice??

Im worried about GYNO

Thanks so much for all your help!!

You need an AI DURING cycle NOT during PCT.
Clomid doses are too high. 75mg to start should suffice
Add tamoxifen to PCT
First time using var, if it's REAL var (a lot of it is counterfeit), run 60mg this time.
Some like var at beginning, other prefer the end. If you are trying to drop bf or add lean muscle, nutrition is the greater variable.
Split the test into two doses per week.

**MuscleInk** · 08-21-2014, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Tmb59181

stats:

26 years old
195 pounds
5'11
Roughly 13% body fat

Cyp (500mg) either once a week or split 250 (Monday/Thurs) --Weeks 1-10

**Is leveling the blood levels with 2 injections the much preferred method with the long esters?

VAR (60-80 mg) ED -- weeks 6-10?

**Could use some advice on how to run the VAR...toward end of cycle? how many weeks? and should i Go up to 80 or stay at 60? Also should i end Test and VARat same time or Run VAR to PCT?

HCG (500IU) per week split (250iu 2x per week) --weeks 1-12

**Ive read a few forums saying that starting HCG at the beginning of the Cyp cycle is the best thing to do. Im not worried about cost...Could I have some HCG thoughts please

PCT

Clomid

Week 1: Clomid 150mg per day
Week 2: Clomid 150mg per day
Week 3: Clomid 100mg per day
Week 4: Clomid 100mg per day
Week 5: Clomid 50mg per day

Should I Get Adex instead? or will this suffice??

Im worried about GYNO

Thanks so much for all your help!!

You need an AI DURING cycle NOT during PCT.
Clomid doses are too high. 75mg to start should suffice
Add tamoxifen to PCT
First time using var, if it's REAL var (a lot of it is counterfeit), run 60mg this time.
Some like var at beginning, other prefer the end. If you are trying to drop bf or add lean muscle, nutrition is the greater variable.
Split the test into two doses per week.

**Cuz** · 08-21-2014, 06:04 PM

Whew thats alot of clomid for me. The above post is everything you need

**Tmb59181** · 08-21-2014, 06:06 PM

Thanks!!

a couple more questions...

Clomid

week 1: 75
weeks 2: 50
week 3: 50
week 4: 25

would this suffice?

Nolva added to PCT in addition to Clomid

40/40/20/20 is that workable?

VAR is to cut down the body fat...I will also clean up my diet a bit more on the weekends...will run the 60 of VAR

is the HCG during cycle legit?

also as far as AI's go...do I need something like arimidex with this cycle? if so how would you suggest running

**MuscleInk** · 08-21-2014, 06:06 PM

Sorry for the double post. Not sure how that happened.

**MuscleInk** · 08-21-2014, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Tmb59181

Thanks!!

a couple more questions...

Clomid

week 1: 75
weeks 2: 50
week 3: 50
week 4: 25

would this suffice?

Nolva added to PCT in addition to Clomid

40/40/20/20 is that workable?

VAR is to cut down the body fat...I will also clean up my diet a bit more on the weekends...will run the 60 of VAR

is the HCG during cycle legit?

also as far as AI's go...do I need something like arimidex with this cycle? if so how would you suggest running

Much better.

Yes, HCG on cycle. 250iu x2/wk.

Yes you need an AI. Dose and frequency will depend on which AI you decide you use.

Refer to this database for helpful guides.

Austinite's Educational Article Database

**Tmb59181** · 08-21-2014, 06:19 PM

OK Final Edit....

CYP 500mg weeks 1-10 split into 2 doses (250 monday/Thurs)

VAR (60mg) weeks 6-10

HCG 500iu weeks 1-10 split into 250 2x per week

Arimidex .25 mg ED weeks 1-10

wait 2 weeks

Clomid 75/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

how did I do for a first timer?

**MuscleInk** · 08-21-2014, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Tmb59181

OK Final Edit....

CYP 500mg weeks 1-10 split into 2 doses (250 monday/Thurs)

VAR (60mg) weeks 6-10

HCG 500iu weeks 1-10 split into 250 2x per week

Arimidex .25 mg ED weeks 1-10

wait 2 weeks

Clomid 75/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

how did I do for a first timer?

Sorry I missed the 10 weeks. With the longer ester, 12 weeks is the norm. 10 is cutting it a little short.

Adex (arimidex/anastrozole) is taken every other day because it has nearly a 50hr half life.

**joe_notellin** · 08-24-2014, 03:10 AM

the daily Var dosage is much to high IMO... id reduce it to around 40 mg per day and increase the time you take it... it will be more beneficial to run 40 mg a day for 10 weeks than 80 mg for five... much more beneficial... and ultimately easier on your system providing you are taking the proper liver protection sups.

REmember... the body can only change so much over a short period of time, no matter how much chems you put in to it..... that said, give your body time to make changes... achieve balance between an effective dosage and the time needed to achieve the desired body changes