Primo - is it worth it?

[< <Samson> >]

I haven't been on here for a bit, but I haven't stopped the sauce or lifting by any means.


I am at a point now where I'm a few pounds away from semi competition condition, but I don't want to drop more weight before I add a little more LBM. So - I have been looking into another bulk type cycle.


So far, this is what I have come up with:

Tren E is no no for myself(it just doesn't settle well with me)
Tren Ace requires EOD shots minimum & I have been taking down too much of it already - so, I am steering clear of tren ace for a bulk
Deca - just not worth the possible dick losing side effects IMO
Orals - No more, I have tried most & the sides are just not worth the gains

I am not starting GH at my current age, so this leaves me with the "test is best" theory or Primo & test

If I decide to go test only, I will be on quite a bit which def has downsides.

Primo & test on the other hand sounds excellent, but the price is no joke - is it worth the damage to my wallet? What can I expect from it compared to every other sauce available? I already know that it is ran in long durations & @ what doses.

[carbo]

I can't comment of primo, never tried it But let me give a few pointers on the other compounds you mentioned:

Tren - OK tren is out, you don't want to overuse it
Deca - I doubt you'll ever encounter a situation remotely similar to deca dick with proper estrogen, prolactin management and 10mg tadalafil daily...
Oral - well fine orals are out, did you know there is injectable dbol ?

[< <Samson> >]

Deca - I doubt you'll ever encounter a situation remotely similar to deca dick with proper estrogen, prolactin management and 10mg tadalafil daily...

This is very user dependent & I am not looking to take the risk. Thought about it for sure, but it's just not worth the effort IMO. I have talked to quite a few guys on this already. It's damn near split down 50/50, some get awful ED & some say the opposite. From my experience - I am very sensitive to certain shit, and when I hit something that gives me ED issues they last for a long time.

Oral - well fine orals are out, did you know there is injectable dbol?

I have def considered a inject-able oral, again QD shots & semi questionable gains.

[tdoe11]

I can't comment of primo, never tried it But let me give a few pointers on the other compounds you mentioned: Tren - OK tren is out, you don't want to overuse it Deca - I doubt you'll ever encounter a situation remotely similar to deca dick with proper estrogen, prolactin management and 10mg tadalafil daily... Oral - well fine orals are out, did you know there is injectable dbol?

Also injectable winny. Which could aid in cutting a few more pounds while increasing strength

And yes with proper e2 management deca use should be no problem. I have ran high deca, low test and loved it. Estrogen is a precursor to prolactin. Keep estrogen in check, prolactin will not build up.

[Cuz]

Deca never gave me a problem. Some may say its bro science but its ok its just my opinion to run test double the deca for instance 600/300. I had never ad an issue just took adex and was fine.

Primo never used it and never will. Cant justify spending triple digits per week on gear.

[Juced_porkchop]

Too much volume needed for decent primo run. so i say no. i rather hit 2-3ml of maste then 7-10ml of primo (+ test).

if it could be made painfree at 300mg/ml i might change my tune.

[< <Samson> >]

Deca never gave me a problem. Some may say its bro science but its ok its just my opinion to run test double the deca for instance 600/300. I had never ad an issue just took adex and was fine.

Primo never used it and never will. Cant justify spending triple digits per week on gear.

Last guy I spoke with ran 750mg of test & 300mg of deca & lost his cawk for months - that alone makes me lose wood

I can get Primo @ a fairly decent cost - but it still comes out to about the same cost as GH

Winny does not sound way too appealing to joint dryness



So far - high test seems to b the way 2 go

[tdoe11]

Last guy I spoke with ran 750mg of test & 300mg of deca & lost his cawk for months - that alone makes me lose wood I can get Primo @ a fairly decent cost - but it still comes out to about the same cost as GH Winny does not sound way too appealing to joint dryness So far - high test seems to b the way 2 go

At 750 test his estrogen was most likely not taken care of and elevated. Which in turn gave him high prolactin levels. If he would of done 300mgs test, estrogen would be very controllable

[jimmyinkedup]

primo sucks. save your money. 85 % is fake anyway.

[< <Samson> >]

primo sucks. save your money. 85 % is fake anyway.

Yah, pretty much what I'm getting so far


Off topic, but how much test is worth running? I have ran close to a g with so/so results. I was thinking of 1.5g's - but, e control gets tough & fast.

[Darkness]

Its a tough choice, theres only 4 real bulk compounds aside from test. Tren , Deca , Dbol and Drol, since you've ruled these out, you either have with test only or add some less bulking agents like EQ or even mast. Well I think that by you trying to avoid sides from the tren/deca you'll end up battling more sides from too much test and not getting a much in return.

As someone said, injectable Dbol is available, and with some EQ it might not be too bad of a cycle with test in the 600mg range.

I would still go for the deca or npp though, control your E's and 10mg of cialis and there will never be a prob.

[< <Samson> >]

Eq def seems like a waste of space


I am considering another oral since I have a ton of this crap on hand. It was so cheap I bought way more than a cycle's worth.

But, daum that shit is nasty. When I ran both sDrol & Drol I woke up in the middle of the night with heart burn. I started using Aciphex. But, daum the orals don't settle well with me.


Have been considering injectable orals like Drol or dBol but that means right back to Qd shots.

[Ashop]

I think if you can afford it and can run it right and appreciate PRIMO for what it is
then YES,,,worth it in my view.

[darkcrayz]

I have run deca a few times and never had issues losing wood. Just need to manage e/prolactin.

[Buster Brown]

I just ran Winnie for the first during a cut at 50 mgs a day orally and I didn't have any joint issues. I was on the ropes about using since I would typically go with tbol but was pleasantly suprised. I liked it.

[ScotchGuard02]

I ran 500mg/wk primo a couple of times. I didn't see a lot of gains over the 500mg/wk Test I was taking. My muscles did look nice and tight.

[joe_notellin]

Primo is definitely worth it if you can afford to pay for it... gains on primo tend to stick..

For all the naysayers that disagree... ultimately you get what you pay for in life.... its a tried and true fact and exactly the case with primo.