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    First cycle advice pleaseeee

    stats:

    26 years old
    195 pounds
    5'11
    Roughly 13% body fat


    Cyp (500mg) either once a week or split 250 (Monday/Thurs) --Weeks 1-10

    **Is leveling the blood levels with 2 injections the much preferred method with the long esters?

    VAR (60-80 mg) ED -- weeks 6-10?

    **Could use some advice on how to run the VAR...toward end of cycle? how many weeks? and should i Go up to 80 or stay at 60? Also should i end Test and VARat same time or Run VAR to PCT?

    HCG (500IU) per week split (250iu 2x per week) --weeks 1-12

    **Ive read a few forums saying that starting HCG at the beginning of the Cyp cycle is the best thing to do. Im not worried about cost...Could I have some HCG thoughts please

    PCT

    Clomid

    Week 1: Clomid 150mg per day
    Week 2: Clomid 150mg per day
    Week 3: Clomid 100mg per day
    Week 4: Clomid 100mg per day
    Week 5: Clomid 50mg per day

    Should I Get Adex instead? or will this suffice??

    Im worried about GYNO


    Thanks so much for all your help!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmb59181 View Post
    stats:

    26 years old
    195 pounds
    5'11
    Roughly 13% body fat


    Cyp (500mg) either once a week or split 250 (Monday/Thurs) --Weeks 1-10

    **Is leveling the blood levels with 2 injections the much preferred method with the long esters?

    VAR (60-80 mg) ED -- weeks 6-10?

    **Could use some advice on how to run the VAR...toward end of cycle? how many weeks? and should i Go up to 80 or stay at 60? Also should i end Test and VARat same time or Run VAR to PCT?

    HCG (500IU) per week split (250iu 2x per week) --weeks 1-12

    **Ive read a few forums saying that starting HCG at the beginning of the Cyp cycle is the best thing to do. Im not worried about cost...Could I have some HCG thoughts please

    PCT

    Clomid

    Week 1: Clomid 150mg per day
    Week 2: Clomid 150mg per day
    Week 3: Clomid 100mg per day
    Week 4: Clomid 100mg per day
    Week 5: Clomid 50mg per day

    Should I Get Adex instead? or will this suffice??

    Im worried about GYNO


    Thanks so much for all your help!!
    You need an AI DURING cycle NOT during PCT.
    Clomid doses are too high. 75mg to start should suffice
    Add tamoxifen to PCT
    First time using var, if it's REAL var (a lot of it is counterfeit), run 60mg this time.
    Some like var at beginning, other prefer the end. If you are trying to drop bf or add lean muscle, nutrition is the greater variable.
    Split the test into two doses per week.
    Last edited by MuscleInk; 08-21-2014 at 06:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmb59181 View Post
    stats:

    26 years old
    195 pounds
    5'11
    Roughly 13% body fat


    Cyp (500mg) either once a week or split 250 (Monday/Thurs) --Weeks 1-10

    **Is leveling the blood levels with 2 injections the much preferred method with the long esters?

    VAR (60-80 mg) ED -- weeks 6-10?

    **Could use some advice on how to run the VAR...toward end of cycle? how many weeks? and should i Go up to 80 or stay at 60? Also should i end Test and VARat same time or Run VAR to PCT?

    HCG (500IU) per week split (250iu 2x per week) --weeks 1-12

    **Ive read a few forums saying that starting HCG at the beginning of the Cyp cycle is the best thing to do. Im not worried about cost...Could I have some HCG thoughts please

    PCT

    Clomid

    Week 1: Clomid 150mg per day
    Week 2: Clomid 150mg per day
    Week 3: Clomid 100mg per day
    Week 4: Clomid 100mg per day
    Week 5: Clomid 50mg per day

    Should I Get Adex instead? or will this suffice??

    Im worried about GYNO


    Thanks so much for all your help!!
    You need an AI DURING cycle NOT during PCT.
    Clomid doses are too high. 75mg to start should suffice
    Add tamoxifen to PCT
    First time using var, if it's REAL var (a lot of it is counterfeit), run 60mg this time.
    Some like var at beginning, other prefer the end. If you are trying to drop bf or add lean muscle, nutrition is the greater variable.
    Split the test into two doses per week.
    Last edited by MuscleInk; 08-21-2014 at 06:05 PM.

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    Whew thats alot of clomid for me. The above post is everything you need

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    Thanks!!

    a couple more questions...

    Clomid

    week 1: 75
    weeks 2: 50
    week 3: 50
    week 4: 25

    would this suffice?

    Nolva added to PCT in addition to Clomid

    40/40/20/20 is that workable?

    VAR is to cut down the body fat...I will also clean up my diet a bit more on the weekends...will run the 60 of VAR

    is the HCG during cycle legit?

    also as far as AI's go...do I need something like arimidex with this cycle? if so how would you suggest running

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    Sorry for the double post. Not sure how that happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmb59181 View Post
    Thanks!!

    a couple more questions...

    Clomid

    week 1: 75
    weeks 2: 50
    week 3: 50
    week 4: 25

    would this suffice?

    Nolva added to PCT in addition to Clomid

    40/40/20/20 is that workable?

    VAR is to cut down the body fat...I will also clean up my diet a bit more on the weekends...will run the 60 of VAR

    is the HCG during cycle legit?

    also as far as AI's go...do I need something like arimidex with this cycle? if so how would you suggest running
    Much better.

    Yes, HCG on cycle. 250iu x2/wk.

    Yes you need an AI. Dose and frequency will depend on which AI you decide you use.

    Refer to this database for helpful guides.

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html

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    OK Final Edit....

    CYP 500mg weeks 1-10 split into 2 doses (250 monday/Thurs)

    VAR (60mg) weeks 6-10

    HCG 500iu weeks 1-10 split into 250 2x per week

    Arimidex .25 mg ED weeks 1-10

    wait 2 weeks

    Clomid 75/50/50/25
    Nolva 40/40/20/20


    how did I do for a first timer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmb59181 View Post
    OK Final Edit....

    CYP 500mg weeks 1-10 split into 2 doses (250 monday/Thurs)

    VAR (60mg) weeks 6-10

    HCG 500iu weeks 1-10 split into 250 2x per week

    Arimidex .25 mg ED weeks 1-10

    wait 2 weeks

    Clomid 75/50/50/25
    Nolva 40/40/20/20


    how did I do for a first timer?
    Sorry I missed the 10 weeks. With the longer ester, 12 weeks is the norm. 10 is cutting it a little short.

    Adex (arimidex/anastrozole) is taken every other day because it has nearly a 50hr half life.

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    one more note

    the daily Var dosage is much to high IMO... id reduce it to around 40 mg per day and increase the time you take it... it will be more beneficial to run 40 mg a day for 10 weeks than 80 mg for five... much more beneficial... and ultimately easier on your system providing you are taking the proper liver protection sups.

    REmember... the body can only change so much over a short period of time, no matter how much chems you put in to it..... that said, give your body time to make changes... achieve balance between an effective dosage and the time needed to achieve the desired body changes
    Last edited by joe_notellin; 08-24-2014 at 03:13 AM. Reason: added info

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