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    2nd Cycle.... Test prop/ test e/ eq/ var.. What are your opinions?

    i am about to start my second cycle and would like to hear what everyone thinks about this cycle.
    i am 6'2 and 240 pounds. i ran my first cycle last November and it consisted of Test e 500mg/week, week 1-12 along with tren ace 400mg/week, weeks 4-12 and winny weeks 6-12. i competed in my first show the following March in STL. Ive been off since i got done with my pct and going to run this cycle now.

    Test Prop 300mg/ week, weeks 1-9
    Test E 500mg/week, weeks 9-11
    Test E 750mg/week, weeks 12-15

    Eq 400mg/week, weeks 1-8
    EQ 600mg/week, weeks 9-15

    Var 50mg/day, weeks 1-10

    Thoughts? Opinions? What have you gained from a cycle like this?
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    Is this a serious post? Are you trying to troll us here? Have you even read any of the stickies here?

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    not for sure what you mean RangerDanger, just asking for others input on the cycle. Im new to the forums but have been reading post from this site for a long time and just wanted to see what advice others had to give and their opinions

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    Where or from who did you get that cycle recommendation? Not this planet I'm sure. So many wrongs I cant even begin. Why switch from prop to E? What're you looking to do? Bulk or cut? What're your stats? Age? Diet? Geez this is just messed up.

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    A trainer that i use gave me this. i kept a lot if my size gain from my last cycle and now im looking to cut down but i dont want to lose my size that ive gained either. just get leaner.

    just example of my diet/meals..
    breakfast is
    1/2 cup oats
    2 eggs 4 egg whites
    day meals
    7-9 oz Chix, fish, turkey
    1 cup rice or 7 oz potatoes
    1 or 2 cup greens depending on which meal

    and 2 protein shakes a day. 1 right after workouts

    Stats: 6'2, 240lb, 24yr old, 14% bf
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    Quit a big fella with those stats. Damn good genetics

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    thank you, i did get lucky i suppose. My father is 6'3 and my uncle at 6'5.. both very stout dudes so yea good genetics does help out a lot in the BB world.

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    First pic was 3 weeks before show at 224 lbs
    Next pics are after my show where i weighed in at 218
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    It's a terrible cycle tbh. Is your 'trainer' also your source?

    Your nips look a bit puffy in that last pic, are they? I notice you make no mention of any on cycle ancillaries in your plan.
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    How do you maintain 240lbs on a diet like that?

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    I ran nolvadex 2 weeks before and in my pct along with chlomid.. He also had me run my gear all the way to the week of my show, which I did not agree with as I was running test e and tren ace so I felt I still had lot of bloat from the gear. Yea they were a bit puffy but I they never got hard..

    I was only going to run an AI if I started seeing symptoms to where I felt I needed to run them.

    Any and all suggestions are welcome. This is why I posted this because I wasn't sure of the way it was set up like this . I understand jump starting with prop but I would also think the E would be needed to ran the whole time

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    I don't understand the test schedule. Why add E in the last 6 weeks? What is the reasoning for this because I don't see it. I could understand doing it the other way around to quicken the time to PCT. It takes 3-4 weeks for the E to kick in. By that time the prop will have worn off. Seems like a way to screw up your levels.

    Or am I missing something?

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