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08-29-2014, 11:58 PM #1New Member
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First cycle - Test E and Dbol
Hi guys
It's been a while since I have been on the board so apologies for that.
Over the last few weeks I have been planning my first cycle. I have taken note from many sites but despite being from the otherside of the pond, still refer to here for the best, unbiased advice.
If you don't mind please can you give me any pointers here, although no doub you are bored of hearin from newbies.
My stats as follows:
Age 35
Weight 255lbs
Height 6'6"
BF 14-15%
Currently not training MMA so now looking to bulk up.
From the end of Sept I am looking to the following novice cycle:
Testosterone Enanthate with Dianabol
Wk1
1000mg test-e split twice in week one (500mg each) + 25mg dbol ed
Wk2 -6
500mg test e per week 2x inj 250mg + 25mg dbol ed
Stop Dbol
Wk7-12
Continue 500mg test e per week
3 week break from everything then start PCT.
Wk1 +2 PCT
40mg nolva ed
Wk3 and 4 if needed PCT
20mg nolva ed
Now for my questions if I may as I want to get this right.
Let's start at the end, the PCT. I am going by the suggested cycle and PCT on this site, but the text has slightly conflicting comments.
I have Armidex (1mg tabs) to hand, do I only need this if got gyno, issues or similar and start to show signs? Or should it be run back to back as a 0.75 mg e3d? Some peolple suggest high doses whilst others very small like o.5eod etc. Rsad two posts this morning here, one saying run alongside cycle, another keep on hand only.
I also have 40 tabs of 50mg of clomid, should I use this before the nolva or with?
There are mixed comments on HCG on all sites for the use of HCG on this type of cycle - I understand it's importance when doing 'heavier' cycles with higher quantities but is it something i should have here to hand? Or is that really a dumb question.
Now the dbol - it looks like i can only get dbol in a injectable solution and not pills (will keep looking) but it's a 200mg/1ml, so do I take this once a week or split it two it three times a week as I presume it's halflife is similar to pills?
If injecting will the total weekly amount need to equal the same if it were pills (25mg ed = 150mg pw)?
If I can't get dbol pills and injection isn't the way forward for this cycle, will the 500mg test e be good alone?
I am just reading about Aromasin and now wondering whether that would be better than Adex as less likly to cause joint issues.
Thanks for taking the time to read.
Cheers
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08-30-2014, 01:43 AM #2
Read this
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
And start again, it has all you need to design your cycle properly.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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08-30-2014, 02:38 AM #3
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what Back in Black said
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08-30-2014, 06:52 AM #4
What Bigtahl said
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08-30-2014, 07:59 AM #5
What rangerdanger said.
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08-30-2014, 09:28 AM #6New Member
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Yeh thanks for the link. I based my firstvcycle on the novice cycle from this site, so now thats wrong.
Still soo many contracdictions on the page, but guess i will carry on reading as i forget those who call themselves experienced where never novices.
Sure i will find some answers. Sorry for being a newbie.
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08-30-2014, 09:35 AM #7
Ease up MMA! Austinites thread is top notch and current. It really is what you should do and why BIB linked you to it. What your proposing is over complicating things plus you definitely do not need dbol on a first cycle. Learn what test will do for you, how your body responds to it and how to manage the sides. You'll do great with it, no doubt.
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08-30-2014, 09:52 AM #8New Member
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Thanks kelkel i didnt mean to sound rude and certainlybwasnt cussing, just remarking on the minefield of differing opinions. I want tonget itvright as its my body i will mess up if it goes wrong.
Just researching the hcg now to calculate total amounts needed _ looks like 6000 iu for a cycle.
Again no offence meant
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08-30-2014, 10:35 AM #9
The most important part of researching is knowing what sources to trust and what sources to disregard.
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08-30-2014, 11:06 AM #10Originally Posted by RangerDanger830
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08-30-2014, 11:31 AM #11
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08-30-2014, 11:36 AM #12
Disclaimer-BG is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way encourage nor condone the use of any illegal substances.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only.
Everything was impossible until somebody did it!
I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!
It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.
Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Great place to start researching ! http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html
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08-30-2014, 11:38 AM #13
BIB definitely could have explained his reasoning a little more
Disclaimer-BG is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way encourage nor condone the use of any illegal substances.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only.
Everything was impossible until somebody did it!
I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!
It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.
Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Great place to start researching ! http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html
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08-30-2014, 11:47 AM #14
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08-30-2014, 11:48 AM #15
Fixed.
Disclaimer-BG is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way encourage nor condone the use of any illegal substances.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only.
Everything was impossible until somebody did it!
I've got 99 problems......but my squat/dead ain't one !!
It doesnt matter how good looking she is, some where, some one is tired of her shit.
Light travels faster then sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Great place to start researching ! http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html
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08-30-2014, 12:14 PM #16
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