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Hello Guys,
I have started my first cycle with Test (400/week) and Tren (200/week). It has been 3 weeks and I was planning on doing my cycle for 16 weeks.
Now, I feel really down and depressed, plus I am having little panic attacks. Is this normal? What should I do? I really do not like to feel this way.
Please help if you know the answers.
Tren ? First Cycle ?
yes.
Ive had another buddy say the same shit. I have bad anxiety naturally, so yes Tren does aggravate it. Just be a man and tough it out, or try a different compound. After using Tren a couple of times, I'm not overly impressed with it. Just makes me rock hard and lean, but at the cost of being more anxious and paranoid and aggravated.
Thx for your feedback WMSuperSport. It is good to know that might happen to others and I am not crazy. I am taking anxiety pills but make me sleepy and the feeling does not go away. I dunno if I should low the dose of Test or Tren. I have used Test before and with a high dose I felt the same.
Tren first cycle horrible idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by LAbuddy
How bout some stats so everyone can help you?
Also lay out full cycle...
Ai?
Hcg?
PCT?
Ok maybe first tren cycle then? Your first post made it seem first cycle everQuote:
Originally Posted by LAbuddy
It is my first cycle with Tren. I have been on Test Cypionate a couple of times with great results.
Here are my stats:
Age: 35
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 165
Body Fat: 14%
CYCLE:
Weeks 1-4 :Test 400 / Tren 200 / Anadrol (Daily) / Letrozole (daily)
Weeks 5-8 :Test 400 / Tren 250 / Anadrol (Daily) Letrozole (daily)
Weeks 8-12 : Test 400 / Tren 300 Letrozole (daily)
Weeks 12-16 :Test 400 / Tren 200 / Anadrol (Daily) Letrozole (daily)
PCT: Clomid and HCG
Attaches is my pic of before (left) and after (right) 3 weeks on this cycle. I would like to gain 20 lbs after my cycle. Hopefully of muscle only. Is that possible?
After 2 cycles already? What were your stats before you cycled?
In all honesty you look and sound like you have some nutrition issues. Post up your current weight gain plan.
In the meantime you should drop the tren and anadrol, you are nowhere near ready for it. (Arguably not ready for any kind of cycle IMHO)
Well nice job on controlling bodyfat. Id say 10 maybe less. BuT you honestly look natural. You're delts are really small but definitely lean. You really dont need gear if your not trying to get bigger. What are your goals
My goals is to GAIN MUSCLE and keep my 6 pack. I would love to have your arms and delts CUZ.
Hope to gain 20 lbs by the end of the year! I want broad shoulders, big pecs and arms. I eat 7 meals a day (30-40 grs of protein on each meal). A lot of protein and adding more carbs now, except at night. I will continue with Tren since I have seen my biceps and pecs growing in only 3 weeks.
I have gained 2 lbs since I stated my cycle but I have noticed I look bigger (in a good way) so hopefully is muscle only. I am training really hard 6 times a weeks for 2 hours. I am lifting more weight and do more reps. So, I see the difference on my strenght as well. Any tips?
You have no frame to even consider AAS! Your nutrition plan is lacking. Your at high risk for injury this cycle with Tren.
and why is that Gold43? No frame? AAS? I am pretty sure my nutrition plan is good. Put together by a nutritionists of BB's.
Post it up. Your plan may be good. But you just started it if anything. Yes, from your pics, you have no frame built. You are going to have plenty of strength. Your muscles can handle it, but your joints and ligaments won't. Your cycling to put on mass when clearly you have none to start with. 20 lbs of muscle by the end of the year? LMFAO
Very negative and sarcastic comments Gold43. Good luck with your goals.
It's called experience.
100 people like you come through this forum a day. They all think AAS is going to magically make them a tank! No hard work or nutrition discipline needed.
Labuddy.....gold is right. He's just being a little more blunt then others. I don't think he is trying to be rude but just forward in his approach.
anadrol dose? letrozole dose?
LOL ever hear of water retention.Quote:
Originally Posted by LAbuddy
You sound like you are overtraining. I dont think you know how to really train yet. Not being a smartass here but it takes some intense heavy training to activate the thick type 2 tissue. This is what gives you the thick look.Quote:
Originally Posted by LAbuddy
Your nutrition is good I think. I just dont think you are eating enough. Take your current macros and increase them. Your probably eating 2k cals or less. If I were you id start eating 3000. You can start at 500 above tdee but ifbur serious about size you have to consume some major food. My analysis would be learn HIT training amd increase calories. There are people here that can help you with your nutrition even if you have a coach he obviously doesn't have you eating enough for mass. Just my opinion
having a plan and executin is two different things eat bro EAT your 165 with multiple cycles I trained my friend from 140 to 170 in 3 month natty beginner gains obv but the mofo ate like a pig
I personally would drop the androl
Out and run the tren as a kickstart
First 6-8 weeks ... Also run the test
For 12 weeks ... I'm on a similar cycle
At the mo test e 12 weeks 500mg
Tren ace 150 mg first 6-8 weeks depending
On sides .... My only issues at the mo
Is that I'm only getting 4 hours sleep
No anxiety or anything else
My calorie intake is 4-5 k
6ft
90kg
16%bf
Age 39
Hope this helped
LAbuddy, Your diet is lacking with those stats. Something is off! Let these gents help you! Post up your diet, cycle history and training routine.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by probuild42
LAbuddy:
how much u eat bro? u can feel shit on tren if that is too low(on anything rly)
For sure nutrition like others are saying. Look around the forum to find the proper way to eat. As you've already started cycle I would recommend seeing it through. However, I would make the change to lower the test and increase the tren. I would do 200mg test, 300-350 tren and see if you dont feel better. Also drop the anadrol for another/different cycle. You should always add one compound at a time. That way you know how you react to certain things.
Quick nutrition primer for your body:
2145-2310 cals a day
165-198 (660cals - 792cals)grams of protein a day
split the rest between carbs and fat however you want
If you're not doing a minimum of the above every day for a bulk your kind of wasting money and gear IMO.
IMO, Tren should be run after 5 or 6 cycles or after several years of controlled cycles. Tren is awesome as it is harsh. You'll look good but you can really get hurt. I agree with BackIB, drop the Tren and anadrol. Stick with the Test and run a standard cycle. You'll feel better and it's safer.
Thx so much for the message Pushit 05!Quote:
Originally Posted by pushit_05