1st cycle officaly ON

**Justin1988** · 09-06-2014, 06:37 PM

So pumped, did my first infection of test-e and HCG last thursday....letme tell ya my right glute was sore for a day boy lol..had leg day too after first pin i muscled my way threw it, was a bitch but eh no pain no gain.. ne ways im pinning with 23g x 1in right now, feels pretty good, no problem....when i pin would you guys suggest keeping the needle in 10-15seconds after injection?.....
also i know this is a beginner question,

but your next cycle should be after same time on cycle + pct right?
so say i do 12 week cycle january 1st + 2 wks PCT bring me to april 14 lets say....and next cycle souldnt be until august 1st?

**Cuz** · 09-06-2014, 06:40 PM

Why would you do a 2 week pct.?

Pct is standard 4 weeks. Time on + pct= time off. I dont know how to explain it any better
ive never kept my needles in over 5-8seconds

**Justin1988** · 09-06-2014, 06:51 PM

ok ya sorry bout that typo....2weeks after last injection + PCT 4weeks....yaya got ya so basically 12 wks +6wks...so complete cycle is 18wks on 18 wks off right?
so a good 5 seconds is fine....dont gotta go over board with 15.....

does a nice massage on injection spot really help the test more or is it just a comfort thing

**Justin1988** · 09-06-2014, 06:52 PM

what would be so wrong with starting another cycle earlier say half the time or 2\3rds

**Cuz** · 09-06-2014, 06:56 PM

You wont ever fully recover that way. And eventually you hpta will never recover. It needs time

**Justin1988** · 09-06-2014, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cuz

You wont ever fully recover that way. And eventually you hpta will never recover. It needs time

not tryna be a pain here, but if bloodwork shows everything is back to normal, would it be okay then?

**Flatus78** · 09-07-2014, 03:44 AM

Dear Justin1988. Just listen to the more experienced members like Cuz, they are trying to help you(and they answer this all the time), and maybe it is a smart to finish your 1. cycle before thinking about the next one? just my .02. It is better to be safe than sorry. Nothing against you of course.

**lovbyts** · 09-07-2014, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by Justin1988

not tryna be a pain here, but if bloodwork shows everything is back to normal, would it be okay then?

Do you have a pre cycle blood work already? If not then how can you ever know if you are actually back to normal?

Are you going to do a mid cycle blood work so you know where you are at such as Free T, E2, FSH etc?

You should wait at least 4-6 weeks after PCT to do your post cycle blood work.

**Justin1988** · 09-07-2014, 05:49 AM

yes i got my ppre BW and gonnabe doing mid and post aswell,....and flatus im not saying i will do it ....i just want to soak up asmuch knowledge as possible so in any future event that may come and present itself then ill know what to do

**Justin1988** · 09-07-2014, 05:53 AM

hey cuz pretty much basically im doing everything that austinite describes to do as a first cycle, wanted to do it right i guess this is the way.....but im really just curious on cycle on off repeat and different ways

**jdc91gt** · 09-07-2014, 06:03 AM

Love your enthusiasm! But, ... take your time. Let's get through your first cycle and PCT. AAS's can play tricks on your mind, "stay on this cycle longer ... I don't need to wait this long to start another cycle." And, oh yes, 2 weeks PCT? Try 4. Let your HPTA stabilize. You mess up your HPTA and you're in for a life long haul.

Best of luck! And, keep us posted.

**Jaydenn** · 09-07-2014, 06:38 AM

As a beginner, please read the thread, which explains how to do a first cycle correctly...

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

**fit2bOld** · 09-07-2014, 06:38 AM

Personally. One cycle a year is good. If your not a pro and it's just about looking good, once a year fills you out and keeps you strong. Time it to look good during the summer when the tank tops and shorts come out.

Or 2 cycles a year winter bulk and summer cut.

If this isn't enough for the non pro then your diet and workout regimen need help