1st Cycle Help

[petapopin1]

Stats:
6 Foot
25
205lb
12% BF
Squat 405
Bench 365
Deadlift 545
8 years of training

The Plan
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10 weeks
Test Prop - 300ml a week
Tren Ace - 300ml a week
hCH - 250 iu every 3-4 days

Clen - 3-4 weeks out

Pct:
Clomid at 50/50/50/50
Nolvadex at 20/20/20/20

Drop prop 2 weeks out before the show.

Im prepping for a NPC men's physique show.

Please give me some insight guys!

[PistolPete33]

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! DO NOT RUN TREN for a first cycle. Very bad idea. So, you're preparing for a show, have never touched gear before, and you want to add it now???? You have no idea how your body is going to respond to this. I would also keep a more basic first cycle to Test E or C only with the HCG , Anastrozole, and PCT. You could run Prop only but the PIP might be terrible on virgin muscle.

[petapopin1]

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! DO NOT RUN TREN for a first cycle. Very bad idea. So, you're preparing for a show, have never touched gear before, and you want to add it now???? You have no idea how your body is going to respond to this. I would also keep a more basic first cycle to Test E or C only with the HCG, Anastrozole, and PCT. You could run Prop only but the PIP might be terrible on virgin muscle.

I took oral winni like 4 years ago and gained 20 lb lol.
wouldn't ethinate hold too much water? I have access to letro only for AI

For a first time cycle for contest prep you'd only run test E and HCG ?

[Armybrah]

Test E, an AI, and HCG yes. Your pct is good though.

Why start out with the intense d rugs right off the bat. Specially if you are completing you're in it for the long run anyways, might as well do it the right way.

Tren is like 5x more powerful the test . It's anabolic score is 500. Compared to Tests 100. Take it slow.

[petapopin1]

Test E, an AI, and HCG yes. Your pct is good though.

Why start out with the intense d rugs right off the bat. Specially if you are completing you're in it for the long run anyways, might as well do it the right way.

Tren is like 5x more powerful the test . It's anabolic score is 500. Compared to Tests 100. Take it slow.

From what I've read Tren is the best for men's physique. I don't know much to be honest so I need your help.

[Armybrah]

From what I've read Tren is the best for men's physique. I don't know much to be honest so I need your help.

The answer's you will get is to be smart about this brother. Do your research there are plenty of stickies to help you out. Not to mention going to the home page and reading the the profiles of each AAS and find out what each one does when it's in your body.

Research Research Research.

Read it and execute. Usually people don't even do tren for at least 3-4 cycles.

There's a first cycle stickie at the top of this forum look it over.

[itsjayman02]

From what I've read Tren is the best for men's physique. I don't know much to be honest so I need your help.

This!!!

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[Deal Me In]

Tren is a horrible choice for a first cycle.

Also, you didn't answer the question. If you are close to a competition I assume you have your diet and training dialed in. Why would you introduce something new, that you can't control, right before a show. What if you retain a lot of water or get any of the other side effects possible with AAS?

If you want to cycle, wait till after the show and forget about tren.

Here is everything you need to know. Follow this and don't get creative.

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[petapopin1]

This!!!

I read this already. So just test E eh ?

[petapopin1]

500mg of test E a week with hcg and letro

Would I end cycle and start pct 2 weeks before contest to prevent water retention ?

[Deal Me In]

Yes, your first cycle should be test only with HCG , AI and proper PCT. Everything you need to know is in the article I linked to above.

I can't help you with contest prep. I've never competed. Obviously, those guys use AAS as part of their prep but they do it with experience. In other words, they have run the cycles before and know exactly what they are going to get out of and what the different compounds do to their bodies.

Follow the instructions in the article. Again, don't be creative. If the show isn't until August of next year you have time to run two cycles. So start this cycle now and if you like the results you can incorporate it into your contest prep.

[petapopin1]

Yes, your first cycle should be test only with HCG , AI and proper PCT. Everything you need to know is in the article I linked to above.

I can't help you with contest prep. I've never competed. Obviously, those guys use AAS as part of their prep but they do it with experience. In other words, they have run the cycles before and know exactly what they are going to get out of and what the different compounds do to their bodies.

Follow the instructions in the article. Again, don't be creative. If the show isn't until August of next year you have time to run two cycles. So start this cycle now and if you like the results you can incorporate it into your contest prep.

Im really sensitive to gyno will HCG make it worse ? or along as I use an ai ill be ok?

[Khazima]

HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

[PistolPete33]

There is also a lot to running Tren . You need to control E2 with test and Prolactin at the same time. I've tried Tren twice and both times it was an epic failure. I turn into a raving jerk and become really insecure. I hate how I feel on Tren and won't ever touch the stuff again.

[fit2bOld]

I have no clue why guys want to experiment with compounds before a show or competition. You really need to go into it knowing in advance the outcome.

[petapopin1]

Thanks for the HCG info !

[Back In Black]

OP STOP bumping old threads. Nobody is going to return 7 years later to answer a question that you asked. If you have any questions ask them here else you are not going to win over anybody here.

Thank you.

[petapopin1]

OP STOP bumping old threads. Nobody is going to return 7 years later to answer a question that you asked. If you have any questions ask them here else you are not going to win over anybody here.

Thank you.

When I click on my username why does it not let me have access ?

[frank13]

When I click on my username why does it not let me have access ?

Bc u keep bumping old threads jerk off

[petapopin1]

Bc u keep bumping old threads jerk off

Im new here okay I've this is my first forum I've never been on I didn't know posting in old threads was a bad thing. Seriously tho why can't I click on my profile ????

[fit2bOld]

So you can't change it to make yourself older, larger or leaner.

[petapopin1]

So you can't change it to make yourself older, larger or leaner.

should I be bale to see other people's profiles ? because it won't let me

[fit2bOld]

No your not old enough yet. Give it time.

[petapopin1]

Why on this site does it say to take hcg for pct ? and it says you only need 1 serm instead of both clomid and nolva ?