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    1st Cycle Help

    Stats:
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    Squat 405
    Bench 365
    Deadlift 545
    8 years of training

    The Plan
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    10 weeks
    Test Prop - 300ml a week
    Tren Ace - 300ml a week
    hCH - 250 iu every 3-4 days

    Clen - 3-4 weeks out

    Pct:
    Clomid at 50/50/50/50
    Nolvadex at 20/20/20/20

    Drop prop 2 weeks out before the show.

    Im prepping for a NPC men's physique show.

    Please give me some insight guys!

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    NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! DO NOT RUN TREN for a first cycle. Very bad idea. So, you're preparing for a show, have never touched gear before, and you want to add it now???? You have no idea how your body is going to respond to this. I would also keep a more basic first cycle to Test E or C only with the HCG , Anastrozole, and PCT. You could run Prop only but the PIP might be terrible on virgin muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! DO NOT RUN TREN for a first cycle. Very bad idea. So, you're preparing for a show, have never touched gear before, and you want to add it now???? You have no idea how your body is going to respond to this. I would also keep a more basic first cycle to Test E or C only with the HCG, Anastrozole, and PCT. You could run Prop only but the PIP might be terrible on virgin muscle.
    I took oral winni like 4 years ago and gained 20 lb lol.
    wouldn't ethinate hold too much water? I have access to letro only for AI

    For a first time cycle for contest prep you'd only run test E and HCG ?

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    Test E, an AI, and HCG yes. Your pct is good though.

    Why start out with the intense d rugs right off the bat. Specially if you are completing you're in it for the long run anyways, might as well do it the right way.

    Tren is like 5x more powerful the test . It's anabolic score is 500. Compared to Tests 100. Take it slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armybrah View Post
    Test E, an AI, and HCG yes. Your pct is good though.

    Why start out with the intense d rugs right off the bat. Specially if you are completing you're in it for the long run anyways, might as well do it the right way.

    Tren is like 5x more powerful the test . It's anabolic score is 500. Compared to Tests 100. Take it slow.
    From what I've read Tren is the best for men's physique. I don't know much to be honest so I need your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petapopin1 View Post
    From what I've read Tren is the best for men's physique. I don't know much to be honest so I need your help.
    The answer's you will get is to be smart about this brother. Do your research there are plenty of stickies to help you out. Not to mention going to the home page and reading the the profiles of each AAS and find out what each one does when it's in your body.

    Research Research Research.

    Read it and execute. Usually people don't even do tren for at least 3-4 cycles.

    There's a first cycle stickie at the top of this forum look it over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petapopin1 View Post

    From what I've read Tren is the best for men's physique. I don't know much to be honest so I need your help.
    This!!!

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

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    Tren is a horrible choice for a first cycle.

    Also, you didn't answer the question. If you are close to a competition I assume you have your diet and training dialed in. Why would you introduce something new, that you can't control, right before a show. What if you retain a lot of water or get any of the other side effects possible with AAS?

    If you want to cycle, wait till after the show and forget about tren.

    Here is everything you need to know. Follow this and don't get creative.

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsjayman02 View Post
    This!!!
    I read this already. So just test E eh ?

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    500mg of test E a week with hcg and letro

    Would I end cycle and start pct 2 weeks before contest to prevent water retention ?

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    Yes, your first cycle should be test only with HCG , AI and proper PCT. Everything you need to know is in the article I linked to above.

    I can't help you with contest prep. I've never competed. Obviously, those guys use AAS as part of their prep but they do it with experience. In other words, they have run the cycles before and know exactly what they are going to get out of and what the different compounds do to their bodies.

    Follow the instructions in the article. Again, don't be creative. If the show isn't until August of next year you have time to run two cycles. So start this cycle now and if you like the results you can incorporate it into your contest prep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal Me In View Post
    Yes, your first cycle should be test only with HCG , AI and proper PCT. Everything you need to know is in the article I linked to above.

    I can't help you with contest prep. I've never competed. Obviously, those guys use AAS as part of their prep but they do it with experience. In other words, they have run the cycles before and know exactly what they are going to get out of and what the different compounds do to their bodies.

    Follow the instructions in the article. Again, don't be creative. If the show isn't until August of next year you have time to run two cycles. So start this cycle now and if you like the results you can incorporate it into your contest prep.
    Im really sensitive to gyno will HCG make it worse ? or along as I use an ai ill be ok?

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    There is also a lot to running Tren . You need to control E2 with test and Prolactin at the same time. I've tried Tren twice and both times it was an epic failure. I turn into a raving jerk and become really insecure. I hate how I feel on Tren and won't ever touch the stuff again.

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    I have no clue why guys want to experiment with compounds before a show or competition. You really need to go into it knowing in advance the outcome.

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    Thanks for the HCG info !

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    OP STOP bumping old threads. Nobody is going to return 7 years later to answer a question that you asked. If you have any questions ask them here else you are not going to win over anybody here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    OP STOP bumping old threads. Nobody is going to return 7 years later to answer a question that you asked. If you have any questions ask them here else you are not going to win over anybody here.

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petapopin1 View Post
    When I click on my username why does it not let me have access ?
    Bc u keep bumping old threads jerk off

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank13 View Post
    Bc u keep bumping old threads jerk off
    Im new here okay I've this is my first forum I've never been on I didn't know posting in old threads was a bad thing. Seriously tho why can't I click on my profile ????

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    So you can't change it to make yourself older, larger or leaner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fit2bOld View Post
    So you can't change it to make yourself older, larger or leaner.
    should I be bale to see other people's profiles ? because it won't let me

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    No your not old enough yet. Give it time.
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    Why on this site does it say to take hcg for pct ? and it says you only need 1 serm instead of both clomid and nolva ?

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