Need some advice, pretty sure my oestrogen is too low.

[Jordan101]

I'm 22 currently 6 weeks into my first cycle 12 weeks Test E 500mg a week mon/thu. HCG 100iu ED, pct will be clomid and nolva. Started off with arimidex at 0.25EOD 3.5 weeks in developed gyno symptoms tender right nipple lump just to the side under the skin, felt sad no energy etc. started nolva at 40mg and increased my arimidex to .5mg ED within 3 days lump and soreness had gone and felt good as gold, dropped the nolva after 1 week and continued my arimidex .5mg. Just recently though over the last week or so I've noticed my joints are a bit sore, loss of sex drive, head aches and just not feeling too flash all the synptoms seem to be caused by low estrogen, I got my mid blood cycles done today so hopefully Monday il find out my levels, just curious to wether I should drop my arimidex to .25mgED or .5mgEOD? Near certain that my estrogen has gotten too low, would appreciate some help from anyone that has experienced this..

[clarkey02]

Aren't you glad that you ignored all the reputable vets who advise to wait till you're in your mid 20's to use AAS? I think you should stop the cycle immediately, hammer the HCG then in 2 weeks hit the nolvadex and clomid for 4 weeks.

Then research what you're doing for 3-4 years and realize this body is supposed to last you another 60-70 years.

[lovbyts]

Aren't you glad that you ignored all the reputable vets who advise to wait till you're in your mid 20's to use AAS? I think you should stop the cycle immediately, hammer the HCG then in 2 weeks hit the nolvadex and clomid for 4 weeks.

Then research what you're doing for 3-4 years and realize this body is supposed to last you another 60-70 years.

Oh dont worry, I'm sure he will come back with the usual comment of, he is sure it has nothing to do with his age... I'm mean how could it? He is over 18. he is old enough to vote, join the army and is legally an adult so age cant be a factor. All of us who think otherwise must be wrong. We all know age and experience means nothing to most people between 15 - 25, they know everything.

[Jordan101]

Thanks for all your help clarkey, you think I just got on the juice without any research doctors advice etc? It's my choice if anything goes wrong il take full responsibility for it, I don't need you or anyone else telling me I shouldn't be on it, that's not what this thread is for..

[lovbyts]

Thanks for all your help clarkey, you think I just got on the juice without any research doctors advice etc? It's my choice if anything goes wrong il take full responsibility for it, I don't need you or anyone else telling me I shouldn't be on it, that's not what this thread is for..

^^^^ I told you Clarkey.

Doctors advice? You told/asked your doctor and he gave you advice how to take an illegal substance? Well if you asked your doctor for advice before why are you on an internet message board/forum asking strangers what to do now instead of your doctor???

[Jordan101]

Some more helpful comments.. I never said I knew everything mate, when your willing to give some helpful advice just let me know..

[Jordan101]

Because I can't get in to see my doctor until Monday and wanted to talk to people that have experienced it mate, what's wrong with that? Why don't you jog on if you have nothing helpful to say?

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Some more helpful comments.. I never said I knew everything mate, when your willing to give some helpful advice just let me know..

Even if you were of age this forum doen't spoon feed anyone ! The questions you are asking & statements you are sharng are answered in stickies ! If you are to lazy to read them, why would you expect assistance from an experienced member ? You are not educated enough to cycle ! You are to lazy to read and learn which shows you are imature ! Your choises of different compounds you have tried makes no sense at all ! When something works you stop doing it and go back to a compound that doesn't work and at your small dose use way to much ! Soooooooo grow up research and you will not have to defed yourself for making stupid decissions !

I was stupid like you and had to have a full blown Gyno operation at 28yrs old ! Now that is; a bitch ! So you be all cocky and you still will not receive assistance from this forum and it has been around since 2005 ! You will not find a more dependable forum on the Internet ! So educate and humble up or go troll on another forum boy !

Do something constructive with your life while growing up ! Don't cheat ! Join the Marines if you are all that bad but you would crash so bad you could not even cut the Marines for 6 mths. lol get a life boy and stop trying to be something you can't be at your young age ! The Marines will pack on lean weight and burn fat and for someone like you who needs an adult to hold your hand they would be just right for an undisiplined boy like you ! They would tell yu when to eat, when to sleep, when to train, even when to pee and you are asking someone on this forum to hold your hand ! They would if you could cut their standards ?

[lovbyts]

Because I can't get in to see my doctor until Monday and wanted to talk to people that have experienced it mate, what's wrong with that? Why don't you jog on if you have nothing helpful to say?

Why would you want to take advice from the same people who told you that you should not be doing it in the first place at your age?

I'm not jogging on as you put it because people like you are good good fun, cheap entertainment. You come here and ask for cycle advice and when you dont get the answers you are looking for your ignore everyone with EXPERIENCE but then when you have problems like we told you would happen all of the sudden you want our advice but not willing to take the flack you so much deserve.

You completly ignored the young and steroid link given to you or at least decided it's worth the risk. Well here it is. Youve gone from gyno to crushing your estrogen. Expect to have a roller coaster of sides for quite a while. If you think you are capable of learning something then start reading the sticky post at the top and you will probably find information that will help you in the long run if you are lucky.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Why would you want to take advice from the same people who told you that you should not be doing it in the first place at your age?

I'm not jogging on as you put it because people like you are good good fun, cheap entertainment. You come here and ask for cycle advice and when you dont get the answers you are looking for your ignore everyone with EXPERIENCE but then when you have problems like we told you would happen all of the sudden you want our advice but not willing to take the flack you so much deserve.

You completly ignored the young and steroid link given to you or at least decided it's worth the risk. Well here it is. Youve gone from gyno to crushing your estrogen. Expect to have a roller coaster of sides for quite a while. If you think you are capable of learning something then start reading the sticky post at the top and you will probably find information that will help you in the long run if you are lucky.

How is that back and shoulders ?

I went to the VA and got more disability due to my shoulder and shooting left handed ? Up to 50% disabled and drawing $700.00 per mth. from VA ! Everytime I go I get a little more $$$$ added to my VA disability ck and if I get PTSD I will receive about $2500.00 waiting to see the shrink but they usually just rubber stamp Maries lol, because most are really crazy anyway , lol

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Because I can't get in to see my doctor until Monday and wanted to talk to people that have experienced it mate, what's wrong with that? Why don't you jog on if you have nothing helpful to say?

lol , more DA statements ? Nothing you can do between now and Mon will correct you ED, Gyno, Crashed E-2 ; oh in case you don't know E-2 & Estrogen numbers go hand in hand + RBC makes your joints hurt but if you had read the stickies you would know that and not be asking stupid questions !

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Thanks for all your help clarkey, you think I just got on the juice without any research doctors advice etc? It's my choice if anything goes wrong il take full responsibility for it, I don't need you or anyone else telling me I shouldn't be on it, that's not what this thread is for..

So why even post if yyou don't need anyone's help ! there are people 2 x's your age that still ask question on this forum ? So you are stating you are smarter than them ?

[Haydenz]

Awww you scared him off, I wanted to play.

But serz, hcg,pct, read and we talk in 3/4 years

[PistolPete33]

Another young Know-It-All.... Love it.

[Khazima]

I feel like this one had a rather mature approach, he did ignore advice on cycling young however it's not like he's an 18 year old who started taking test, tren and dbol with no AI or hcg, he's gone about it the right way except for the poor decision to rush into it instead of waiting another 2-3 years.

.25 EOD to .5 ED was too big of a jump, you should have gone .25 EOD to .5 EOD or .25 ED instead of EOD, try .5 EOD or .25 ED and see if symptoms diminish.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I feel like this one had a rather mature approach, he did ignore advice on cycling young however it's not like he's an 18 year old who started taking test, tren and dbol with no AI or hcg, he's gone about it the right way except for the poor decision to rush into it instead of waiting another 2-3 years.

.25 EOD to .5 ED was too big of a jump, you should have gone .25 EOD to .5 EOD or .25 ED instead of EOD, try .5 EOD or .25 ED and see if symptoms diminish.

I have yet to see a Dr. prescribe Tren , dBol, ? You don't think he was BSing a little since Tren is not even intented for humans ?

[Bonaparte]

Just drop your dose to .3 mg ED and go from there.

[Khazima]

I have yet to see a Dr. prescribe Tren , dBol, ? You don't think he was BSing a little since Tren is not even intented for humans ?

I think him mentioning that he talked to his doctor was taken a little out of context.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I think him mentioning that he talked to his doctor was taken a little out of context.

You are possibly correct I talk to my MD every 3 mths. and ten come to the forum and read my BW and treat as recommended by the guys on here that know ? Some would say get a new Dr. But I get a short script for Cypionate and Adex So that is all he is good for and $25.00 BW so I keep going to him and come here for 411 ! He can't even read the BW ! He scripted me 200 mg of Cypionate every 2 weeks So I just do 30mg every 3.5 days and sty around 550 Test level and add HCG and get up to almost 700 So all is good ! I only pay $45.00 for 10,000 iu's of HCG and that is cheaper than the pharmacy !