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[Kazumz]

Well it would be nice if I could post up my cycle and info but the spam software on this forum is blocking me.

Hi, I'm looking to start Tes 400 this week and I need someone with valuable knowledge to review my cycle. It's going to be done anyway, so give me valuable knowledge rather than advice I won't take.

Cycle:
Cycle Length: 6-8 Weeks (First Cycle)
Tes 400
.5cc Wednesday
.5cc Thursday
= 1ml Week

HCG at Week 2 at 500iu stopping with the last jab of test.

Finish 6-8 week cycle then use Letro & Clomid

I'm not sure how long to keep the PCT going for, anyone have any recommendations? Is it okay to use Letro and Clomid together or is it overkill? I've got ALL of the stuff ready for a full cycle, I just need some knowledge from someone experienced so I don't panic on cycle.

[itsjayman02]

Well it would be nice if I could post up my cycle and info but the spam software on this forum is blocking me.

Hi, I'm looking to start Tes 400 this week and I need someone with valuable knowledge to review my cycle. It's going to be done anyway, so give me valuable knowledge rather than advice I won't take.

Cycle:
Cycle Length: 6-8 Weeks (First Cycle)
Tes 400
.5cc Wednesday
.5cc Thursday
= 1ml Week

HCG at Week 2 at 500iu stopping with the last jab of test.

Finish 6-8 week cycle then use Letro & Clomid

I'm not sure how long to keep the PCT going for, anyone have any recommendations? Is it okay to use Letro and Clomid together or is it overkill? I've got ALL of the stuff ready for a full cycle, I just need some knowledge from someone experienced so I don't panic on cycle.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[Kazumz]

I would reply, but I can't.

[Kazumz]

I would reply, but I can't.

1. Food (this is typically your biggest expense) - Done
2. Ster - Test 400 10ml
3. Aroma - Letro (Will only take if I see Gyno problems.)
4. PCT - Letro (Femara), Clomid
5. Gym Membership - 2.3 Years.
6. Accessories (syringes, alcohol wipes, etc...) - Have all this.
7. Blood Work - 3 times - Will get this done
8. hCG (if you're smart) - Ovigil 5000iu

I tell you what though, this spam software doesn't half do my head in.

Have I got enough for 6-8 weeks? The Ovigil vial doesn't half look small...

[Buster Brown]

19 years old is way to young..... and 6-8 weeks on that cycle is a total waste.

[Bodacious]

19 years old is way to young..... and 6-8 weeks on that cycle is a total waste.

X2 19 way to young. You don't wanna do this now.

[tysonfan1]

I agree with Buster

[XxAndreaxX]

agree, too Young... letro in PCT instead of nolva??? WTF

[marcus300]

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

[derekkpapa1]

Agreed to young.
with proper training and diet you should easily be able to make great gains and maintain them.