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    To Frontload or to not Frontload, that is the question...

    Any reasons people have for or against frontloading a test E only cycle? (Say for example 1000mg the first week and 500mg every week after that.)

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    what are your stats?
    how many cycles have you ran?
    do you know how to properly front load?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    what are your stats? how many cycles have you ran? do you know how to properly front load?
    Depends on your experience with it all, personally I don't front load because I rather not think about my blood levels

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    what are your stats?
    how many cycles have you ran?
    do you know how to properly front load?
    I didn't include my stats because I was looking for a general pros and cons to frontloading. However, my stats are:

    160 lbs
    35 y/o
    15% bf
    5'7"

    If frontloading is not recommended for inexperienced users why not?
    If frontloading is recommended for experienced users why?
    What is the proper way to frontload?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    what are your stats?
    how many cycles have you ran?
    do you know how to properly front load?
    Oh, and I've got only 1 test only cycle under my belt.

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    Personally, I wouldn't waste my time front loading s long ester. If I was to front load, it would be with prop or a low dose oral kicker.......

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    Front loading would affect a.i. dosage. Just because you don't feel the effects of the test until week 4, your serum levels are raised from pin 1.

    So, doubling your test would change the required a.i. I do not believe ai dosing is linear.

    That's part of the reason (I think).

    What did you gain or learn from your first cycle?

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    I wouldn't bother , just as easy to run an oral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razman View Post
    Oh, and I've got only 1 test only cycle under my belt.
    I wouldn't worry about frontloading at your stage, just run a standard cycle and let the blood levels build up slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl View Post
    Front loading would affect a.i. dosage. Just because you don't feel the effects of the test until week 4, your serum levels are raised from pin 1.

    So, doubling your test would change the required a.i. I do not believe ai dosing is linear.

    That's part of the reason (I think).

    What did you gain or learn from your first cycle?
    What I learned from my first cycle is that I can handle 400mg/wk of test very well and 0.25 mg/eod of Arimidex appears to work fine for me in terms of AI dosing. I also learned that it took about 3 weeks for me to notice any strength gains. I gained about 15 lbs by the end of my cycle and kept about 8lbs months after PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    I wouldn't bother , just as easy to run an oral.
    I assume you mean run an oral weeks 1-4 while waiting for the test to build up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I wouldn't worry about frontloading at your stage, just run a standard cycle and let the blood levels build up slowly.
    I guess one thing I was wondering is whether it's easier on your HPTA to run a 10 week frontloaded cycle (shutdown HPTA hard and fast for a shorter duration) or instead a 12 week standard cycle (shutdown HPTA more gently/slowly for longer).

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    Quote Originally Posted by razman View Post
    I guess one thing I was wondering is whether it's easier on your HPTA to run a 10 week frontloaded cycle (shutdown HPTA hard and fast for a shorter duration) or instead a 12 week standard cycle (shutdown HPTA more gently/slowly for longer).
    No difference regarding complete shut down. And tdoe11 is right, frontloading is of no benefit with long esters, only shorts and hybrids.
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    I would just run the same dose all the way through, for 12-14 weeks IMO + AI + PCT

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