Help on cycles

[smit]

Awryt looking for some advice I'm on a course of dbol just now but wanting to inject when this cycle is finnished what would be best for a first time to gain size and strength? Also how long should I wait after my dbol cycle and what pct I should get for after injecting any help appreciated Thanks

[Buster Brown]

What are your stats and cycle history? You are running a dbol only cycle (bad move) and want to start an injectable cycle after..... Is that right? I am not trying to be a dick but it looks like you didn't do any reading on how to cycle properly and you are kinda winging it. Always plan your cycle up front and make sure you have what you need before hand.

[marcus300]

dbol only isn't a wise choice for a cycle,
how much do you weigh?
how old are you?
How tall are you?
how long have you been training?
the best way to do anything with steroids is to research them first before trying them, so your better asking questions first so you don't fuk yourself up for the future.
We have a PCT section which is very useful and also an education section to learn how to cycle

[smit]

That is just what I got advised to do by a boy at the gym I go to who I thought I could trust and he knew his stuff I take it this isn't the case? This is my first ever cycle my diet and training are good what would you use to stack with them? Or am I better stopping and starting with something else?

[smit]

I'm 22 weigh 11 stone and I'm 5,7 and I have been training solid for about a year almost any help is appreciated just want to know what's best For me

[marcus300]

how much do you weigh?
how old are you?
How tall are you?
how long have you been training?

[smit]

I'm just under 11stone I'm 22 and about 5ft 7 and nearly a year I was training for about a year then I stopped due to family trouble and been back into it again

[marcus300]

I would stop taking the dbol straight away,
you don't want to be shutting down your natural test before its fully developed,
your way to light and you need to concentrate on learning how to eat correctly and train right because these two areas are the ones you need to research to achieve your goals,
You also need to build a foundation from hard training which takes longer than a few months, check out our workout section and learn how to train correctly, maybe post your whole training routine and we can help you with it, also post your diet in the nutrition section.

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

[smit]

Thanks I will do some research into it a bit more then thanks again for your input, any ideas on how to put on weight I eat about 7-8 meals a day and have shakes but don't seem to put any weight on atall?

[marcus300]

Thanks I will do some research into it a bit more then thanks again for your input, any ideas on how to put on weight I eat about 7-8 meals a day and have shakes but don't seem to put any weight on atall?

Post your full diet in the nutrition section and we can go over it and see what we can do to help you put on weight, but going on steroids wont achieve anything because you will lose everything once you stop the steroids due to not having a good base and poor diet what can maintain any new muscle tissue. Its simple your not eating the rights things and not enough its all about calories in and calories out. Your 11 stone so your eating like a 11 stone guy you need to eat more and eat better foods but best thing to do is post your diet in the appropriate section but one thing is for sure stay away from steroids there will cause you more harm than good at your stage and level of experience

[Herbalist]

I'm 22 weigh 11 stone and I'm 5,7 and I have been training solid for about a year almost any help is appreciated just want to know what's best For me

wait a few more years.