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    Hi,

    I'm looking at stacking igf lr3 and equipoise for a cycle. Anyone ever done this? I'm a 35 male 94 kg approx 20% bf. I train hiit and powerlift with oly lift. I need a boost get leaner but don't want to get too bulky. Is there any other type of supplements I need to support this cycle? Is there any other advice as I'm a rookie...

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    Yeah a lot of people want to do something similar to that until they read and learn how to cycle properly.
    There is a lot more to it than you think if you dont want to have problems.

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

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    Drop the eq
    drop the LR3 - both are useless
    and drop the bf before cycling
    Then do some research on first cycles the best place to start is the link above in post 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    Drop the eq drop the LR3 - both are useless and drop the bf before cycling Then do some research on first cycles the best place to start is the link above in post 2
    I just did dexa I'm at 15 bf
    I have done oral helladrol blindly strength did improve.. I want improved performance and increased strength.. Will peptides help can u suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by woddog View Post
    I just did dexa I'm at 15 bf
    I have done oral helladrol blindly strength did improve.. I want improved performance and increased strength.. Will peptides help can u suggest?
    Why ask more questions when you dont want to listen to any of the advice already given. Obviously you have not taken any time to read the link provided to you. Do you need one of us to read it to you? Time to do some homework. You can start by reading the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts
    Why ask more questions when you dont want to listen to any of the advice already given. Obviously you have not taken any time to read the link provided to you. Do you need one of us to read it to you? Time to do some homework. You can start by reading the link.
    Well played.. I've read it thank you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by woddog View Post
    Well played.. I've read it thank you...
    That's a good start. Did you learn anything? What do you think is the right direction for you according to what you read?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts
    That's a good start. Did you learn anything? What do you think is the right direction for you according to what you read?
    I guess from here I need to slow down and enlighten myself..

    My goals are performance based (plus wanting to look the part) I have done orals and pct successfully. I am a 35 year old male in to strength and conditioning have been training for 4 years. I am 6ft 1" and 94kg 206lb. My diet has been perfect for a long time my liver function is near perfect.
    I know a lot of performance based athletes are taking igf1 lr3 and equipoise but I have never heard or seen results first hand.
    I guess now I'm even more confused because it's all about doing this for the right reasons.
    Mmmmm now what to do....
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    Quote Originally Posted by woddog View Post
    I guess from here I need to slow down and enlighten myself.. Now you are showing your age (maturity).

    My goals are performance based (plus wanting to look the part) I have done orals and pct successfully. I am a 35 year old male in to strength and conditioning have been training for 4 years. I am 6ft 1" and 94kg 206lb. My diet has been perfect for a long time my liver function is near perfect.
    I know a lot of performance based athletes are taking igf1 lr3 and equipoise but I have never heard or seen results first hand.
    I guess now I'm even more confused because it's all about doing this for the right reasons.
    Mmmmm now what to do....
    How many guys do you know who have ED issues? none or very few? Then why is Viagra and Cialis as well as those 100s of supplements that say they help with ED issues one of the worlds best selling RX? Because guys never like to talk about PROBLEMS, especially ED and such. They always tell you the good stuff and forget to add in the other little bits. Some of them may not ever know they problems are related.

    All cycles should start with a Testosterone (injectable) base. That being said, first cycle should be Test only with a proper PCT. Not an OTC PCT, they dont work even if you have been lucky in the past dont keep tempting fate. We read it here all the time guys say how they have never had a problem before but....

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    And, don't forget your AI and hCG on-cycle with the test.

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    Safety is a concern! I would like a safe and tested cycle with a successful pct injectable. Suggestions considering I'm after performance based results ( and t look the part) lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdc91gt
    And, don't forget your AI and hCG on-cycle with the test.
    Without trying to sound like a dumb arse Al? hCG ?

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    They should be in the link I posted. AI is aromatase inhibitor
    HCG is
    Human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG). This is used on cycle to keep your balls working and not looking like you are 10yrs old.

    Dont worry, PCT is not injectable. It's just the stuff you get OTC are worthless supplements and do nothing to get your system working again,.

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