No libido after long still but still making gains?

**Bigbull302** · 11-07-2014, 06:52 AM

Whatup guys so a couple months ago I did my first "cycle". It was just test e but I did it from feb to Mid July at 600 a week. I know it was stupid to do it that long but the gains were unbelievable. So I have been off for at least 3 months. I did pct at the end of aug through sept with clomid. I lost about 15 lbs but I'm still almost 20 lbs bigger than what I was. I am also getting blood work done tomorrow. My concern is that could this all be in my head? If not what could it be? Wednesday I hit a max squat of 495 and I never hit that high even on the gear (405) so I'm still getting stronger. Also I'm 23.

**XxAndreaxX** · 11-07-2014, 09:49 AM

Wow bro, close to 6 months cycle, with a shitthy clomid PCT... bad Idea. You probably screwed up your HPTA. Best thing, get BW done, and start from there.
Probably E2 high, and low test.

**Bigbull302** · 11-07-2014, 11:23 AM

So what would have been a good pct for that cycle?

**XxAndreaxX** · 11-07-2014, 11:35 AM

6000 UI HCG divided in 2 weeks along 10mg nolva ED and 12,5 stane ED.
6+ weeks nolva beginning with 40mg ED going down to 10mg
6 weeks Clomid beginning with 100mg ED going down to 25mg
when start clomid, take only 12,5mg stane E3D to avoid estro crash, like it happened to me.
I did 5 months cycle too in my last one, and I had the worse shutdown in my life. now, after 2 months, libido is growing and its getting better, but I'm still fcked.

**4linked** · 11-07-2014, 11:58 AM

Hcg and ai are both supressive you could try pct again at

Nolva mg per week 40/40/20/20
Clomid 75/50/50/25

**Stosh_112** · 11-07-2014, 12:03 PM

Get ur Blood results. Libido is a mind issue too, doesnt mean ur test levels are low... But if results show low. Try a "PCT RESTART" Load 500iu hcg e3d for 2 weeks and hit another 4-6wk pct with clom n nolv. Had a similar issue when i didnt run hcg during cycle in the past.

**Stosh_112** · 11-07-2014, 12:06 PM

P.S. If levels are normal, give Cialis a try. Avg dose is 10-20mg ed

**HawaiiLifr** · 11-07-2014, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Bigbull302

Whatup guys so a couple months ago I did my first "cycle". It was just test e but I did it from feb to Mid July at 600 a week. I know it was stupid to do it that long but the gains were unbelievable. So I have been off for at least 3 months. I did pct at the end of aug through sept with clomid. I lost about 15 lbs but I'm still almost 20 lbs bigger than what I was. I am also getting blood work done tomorrow. My concern is that could this all be in my head? If not what could it be? Wednesday I hit a max squat of 495 and I never hit that high even on the gear (405) so I'm still getting stronger. Also I'm 23.

I'm just curious. Were you aware odds are good that your Endrocrine system has not fully developed at your age? Did you know that the science is clear and compelling that introducing exogenous androgens during Endocrine development can cause erratic behaviour of the HPTA later in life? This includes the inability to produce sufficient testosterone (LOW T), sterility and erectile dysfunction. I just can't fathom how a young man would risk losing his manhood for results he is totally capable of achieving naturally. Only 3 reasons that could happen: low intelligence, pitiful ignorance or stubborn idiocy. Pray you didn't f*ck your HPTA. Be a mensch and tell your friends that you no longer want to f*ck; keep them from making the same mistake.

**HawaiiLifr** · 11-07-2014, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Stosh_112

P.S. If levels are normal, give Cialis a try. Avg dose is 10-20mg ed

Hey Stosh, Cialis won't help at all with libido- only erectile dysfunction. He hasn't complained of that, which of course would be the final nail in the coffin.

**Stosh_112** · 11-07-2014, 01:48 PM

^^^^ Copy that^^^

**Bigbull302** · 11-08-2014, 09:38 AM

I think my system is fully developed I was already going bald to the point I had to shave my head. I don't have any problem getting an erection or maintaining one. I'm just never in the mood. I will just have to wait on the lab work. Thanks guys

**oldnfl42** · 11-08-2014, 10:48 AM

You might want to try .25mg of cabergoline/dostinex twice a week for libido issues.

**oldnfl42** · 11-08-2014, 10:53 AM

Of course, some blood work analysis would help. Its all in the details.

**HawaiiLifr** · 11-08-2014, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Bigbull302

I think my system is fully developed I was already going bald to the point I had to shave my head. I don't have any problem getting an erection or maintaining one. I'm just never in the mood. I will just have to wait on the lab work. Thanks guys

Chief I hope you know that was directed more towards anyone else thinking about using gear before 25, than to you. 25 is the general all-clear age. If you did a Test cycle for that long, no doubt you were using Anastrozole or Aromasin , right? It's very possible you depressed your estrogen levels. That can happen with overdoing an AI. In that case it's only a matter of time before your E2 levels- and libido- come back. Good luck

**Kozmo** · 11-08-2014, 02:46 PM

It's in your head.

**XxAndreaxX** · 11-10-2014, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by 4linked

Hcg and ai are both supressive you could try pct again at

Nolva mg per week 40/40/20/20
Clomid 75/50/50/25

Wrong, If you did not use HCG during Cycle, you have to kickstart your nuts first, so HCG is good for PCT begin. And btw, what’s the matter if you’re already shut down? Second, why do you say AI shuts you down??? Normally AI only helps to recover test by killing estrogen.