Had to leave work last night!

**Meloncap78** · 11-07-2014, 08:38 PM

5th pin was yesterday morning of a 12 week cycle of Test e 500mg EW. Last night at work My face got very warm out of nowhere and one of my coworkers commented that I was glowing like a fire hydrant. I think that sent my mind spiraling because I got lightheaded and started to panic. My boss sent me home (said I looked like crap). I took my blood pressure at home and it was 160/88 (I attribute a lot of this to my mental state at the time). I also had a very slight temp of 99.5 which I never get. I slept like trash last night but today was a little better. The only thing I notice now is that my heart is beating at a faster pace than normal even at rest. Today at the gym as soon as I picked up some weights and started lifting my face instantly flushed but I didnt't let it panic me this time. Instead I felt very aggressive toward the weights but man was my heart racing like a SOAB after. Felt great after the gym. My bp was 138/85 at the grocery store tonight (this was after walking around for awhile. My BP has always run between 130-140/80-85 due to slight anxiety. It has been high before in a full blown panic attack at 177/100 and my face didn't get like this. I am taking 3 caps a day erase as my AI and obviously have no high e2 symptoms as of yet. Was this episode from the test kicking in? 2 weeks in on E seems kinda early.

**--->>405<<---** · 11-07-2014, 09:01 PM

sounds like anxiety to me with all the blood pressure checkiing and ocd thought patterns. (i know cuz i get it too.)

test at 750mg per week had my blood pressure up to 160s/100.. i discontinued my cycle because of this at 12 weeks instead of 16.

if u keep getting these episodes u might wanna think about discontinuing and re-evaluating whether its worth it to you IMO

**Meloncap78** · 11-07-2014, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

sounds like anxiety to me with all the blood pressure checkiing and ocd thought patterns. (i know cuz i get it too.)

test at 750mg per week had my blood pressure up to 160s/100.. i discontinued my cycle because of this at 12 weeks instead of 16.

if u keep getting these episodes u might wanna think about discontinuing and re-evaluating whether its worth it to you IMO

I started taking a hawthorn mixture for BP. I don't want to have to quit my very first cycle. Is the flushing normal? If it's something that just goes along with it then I guess it's acceptable. As long as there is no chance I'm going to drop dead at 36 lol. Like I mentioned previously, my BP has been higher than last night before and I didn't get flushing.

**Stosh_112** · 11-08-2014, 03:25 AM

Seems my BP gets higher as the day goes on. On cycle resting BP was in the 150/90. I have the same issue with getting flushed in the face and shoulder/chest area when on cycle. I found low dose cialis, omega 3's and an occasional prescribed Benzodiazapine helped a lot. I also remember when i was younger i would get beet red for no reason, found out its a form of a hypo sympathetic nerve. Which gets aggrivated with high test and stress levels... Talk to ur doc about Beta-blockers if u plan on running in the future.

**Chicagotarsier** · 11-08-2014, 04:34 AM

I would recommend from my experience:

1. CBC of RBC and HCT minimum. High HCT impacts BP If you have not donated blood your HCT will be above 50 at this point and impacting you heavily.

2. Ask your Dr about Ace Inhibitors and Beta Blockers. the Beta Blocker will keep your heart from pounding away like that and the ace inhibitor will reduce the pressure. They are easy to come by and cheap..insurance or not.

3. Check your E2. High E2 and high HCT and you got a recipe for hypertension.

Just form my experience. Good Luck

**marcus300** · 11-08-2014, 06:18 AM

Keep an eye on your bp daily, try and check it at the same time each day when your resting,
Make sure you AI is good to go,
Keep the sodium low
watch your diet,
drink plenty of water
take 5mgs Cialis daily

If things are still the same in a week or so try dropping the Test dose down

**fit2bOld** · 11-08-2014, 07:26 AM

You did not mention what you were taking to cause all this. Except for erase that is pretty much useless.

**fit2bOld** · 11-08-2014, 07:27 AM

To clairify. Not the test or erase but preworkouts or any other compounds that could be suspect.

**Meloncap78** · 11-08-2014, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

To clairify. Not the test or erase but preworkouts or any other compounds that could be suspect.

I don't take anything else.

**--->>405<<---** · 11-08-2014, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Meloncap78

I am taking 3 caps a day erase as my AI and obviously have no high e2 symptoms as of yet. Was this episode from the test kicking in? 2 weeks in on E seems kinda early.

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

You did not mention what you were taking to cause all this. Except for erase that is pretty much useless.

missed this part earlier. what is erase?

**Meloncap78** · 11-09-2014, 11:06 AM

Erase is an OTC AI.

**--->>405<<---** · 11-09-2014, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Meloncap78

Erase is an OTC AI.

if this is the case and thats all ur taking u better get a proper, legit AI dude. why the heck would u start a cycle without making double sure u had a legit AI is beyond me and very dumb...

i got mine from my TRT doc to make sure i didnt have any bunk stuff.

500mg test per week and no proper AI and u can be sure ur converting a good amount of test to E2.. high E2 is not good.

GO GET A PROPER AROMATASE INHIBITOR!