Second Cycle Advice for Test and Dbol

[solo96]

Hey all. I'm preparing for my second cycle, after my first of Test E only over this last summer went well. I was trying to cut (but I've since decided I'll never try cutting again on cycle). I loved the way I felt when on cycle, and overall, my body responded very well to it. My PCT also went fine with no noticable bad effects I've heard so much about. The whole experience was almost enough to consider going TRT…but not quite.

I'm 36 tears old, 5'10", weighing in at 180 lbs right now (on my 'cutting' first cycle I cut up to about 190 lbs). My bodyfat is at 12%, the lowest it's been in years, and I'm the strongest I've ever been.

I won't be starting my second cycle until February since my last one ended the end of September, but to give myself more time than before to get gear, I'd like to order it in the near future. I plan to just expand on Austinite's excellent First Cycle thread. So based off the threads and research I've done here, I'm looking at getting the following for the cycle and PCT. I'd appreciate any comments/guidance from experienced members around here - especially if 4 weeks of Dbol is 'good enough' and if 30mg/day is also 'good enough' (should either be increased?), and if .25mg of Arimidex is still enough when adding Dbol to the first weeks of the cycle. I'm not sure I want to get any crazier than Dbol in this next cycle though, but if someone has a recommendation for something else or in addition to what I'm planning, fire away.


Cycle -
- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone Cypionate 250mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)*
- Week 1 to 4: Dianabol 30mg every day. Split 30mg to 3-4 times throughout the day (Half-life of 4-6 hours)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG 250iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)
- Week 1 to 18: N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) 600 mg daily


PCT (Start 18 days after last Test Cyp injection) -
CLMD - 75/50/50/50mg daily
NLVA - 40/20/20/20mg daily

*I'm going with Test Cyp this time around because I've heard it may make you retain water a little less than Test E since I understand Dbol will make me retain water like crazy. Is Test Cyp better for avoiding water retention than Test E?

[Buster Brown]

Your cycle looks fine. Dbol at 30 mgs a day is a great jumping off point and keeping it at that the whole 4-5 weeks is fine. Adex dosage is fine as well but keep an eye on your sides as this may need to be adjusted. The Esther of tes you use does not determine water retention only release time. Your diet and body determine how much you will bloat. I cut on tren a and tes e with no problems. Good luck, glad to see your doing your homework.

[Buster Brown]

Remember to run your Hcg right up til 3 days prior to pct.

[KidUK]

Crazy. I'm about the same age as you. My first Test E cycle was finished also around the end of Sep. and your 2nd cycle sounds exactly like I wanna do. I went 4 and a half months on 500 per week. It was rough and lost most all the gains. I will never run a cycle that long ever again.

[solo96]

Cool - thanks for the clarification on the HCG. Since it sounds like test isn't going to do anything about water retention then, I think I'll just stick with the devil I know and go with Test E for the cycle, then start up PCT a few days earlier.

I stuck with the standard 12 week timeframe for my first cycle, and while I've lost some gains, it's not been very dramatic (plus I still have the look I did after going off cycle, which was mainly what I wanted to keep).

[jimmyinkedup]

Your final decision looks good, Only change I would make is NAC at 1200mg, at the least while running dbol but I run it at that all cycle personally.