Test prop, tren ace, anadrol 3rd cycle

**cwoodfield31** · 12-06-2014, 04:47 AM

What's up guys! Currently planning out my third cycle which if my recovery from my second cycle goes well I should be able to start in April anytime. Below are some of my stats and previous cycle history.

24 y/o
5 foot 10 inches 202 pounds
4 years of serious training and dieting.
Bodyfat was tested yesterday at 11%

Now... to the fun stuff! My first cycle was this past January 2014.
Test E- 600mg (Monday/Thursday) Week 1-10
Dbol - 30 mg Week 1-2, 40 mg Week 3-4
A-dex- .25 mg eod, i adjusted it at the time if needed.
PCT- Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

Cycle 2
Test prop- 150mg eod Week 1-4
NPP- 100mg eod Week 1-4
Test prop- 200mg eod Week 5-8
NPP- 125mg eod week 5-7
Winny- 50mg ed week 5-8
A-dex- .25mg eod week 1-8
Caber- .5mg, 2 x's week. 1-8.
HCG - 500 iu's week. 1-8.
PCT- Clomid-100/50/50/50
Aromasn- 12.5 eod for 4 weeks

Im currently 8 days into pct. I went from 188 14% bf to 202 11%bf weight hasnt changed and i still feel strong and have been getting plenty of food in me. My goal is to lean bulk. I understand I'm still "young" to be taking steroids and I understand the health risks im taking as well, so please don't try to talk me out of it. One question I do have is for a first time tren user should I run the test or the tren at the higher dose? I always read Low test high tren will give less sides. Thoughts on that matter? I'm open to suggestions or any other feedback on the cycle below, thanks!

Test prop- 125 mg eod Week 1-8
Tren ace- 75 mg eod Week 1-7
Anadrol - 50 mg ed Week 5-8
Caber .5mg 2 x's week 1-8
Arimidex .25 mg eod 1-8
HCG 500 IU Week 1-8

PCT
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5
3 grams DAA/day 4 weeks

**tice1212** · 12-06-2014, 10:54 AM

Time on + pct =time off... give urself to recover. Finish this pct and time off and then decide what cycle to run. Remember ur body can only grow so much in such a short period.

**tice1212** · 12-06-2014, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by cwoodfield31

What's up guys! Currently planning out my third cycle which if my recovery from my second cycle goes well I should be able to start in April anytime. Below are some of my stats and previous cycle history.

24 y/o
5 foot 10 inches 202 pounds
4 years of serious training and dieting.
Bodyfat was tested yesterday at 11%
wow pretty good stats. Post pic?

Now... to the fun stuff! My first cycle was this past January 2014.
Test E- 600mg (Monday/Thursday) Week 1-10
Dbol - 30 mg Week 1-2, 40 mg Week 3-4
A-dex- .25 mg eod, i adjusted it at the time if needed.
PCT- Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

Cycle 2
Test prop- 150mg eod Week 1-4
NPP- 100mg eod Week 1-4
Test prop- 200mg eod Week 5-8
NPP- 125mg eod week 5-7
Winny- 50mg ed week 5-8
A-dex- .25mg eod week 1-8
Caber- .5mg, 2 x's week. 1-8.
HCG - 500 iu's week. 1-8.
PCT- Clomid-100/50/50/50
Aromasn- 12.5 eod for 4 weeks

Im currently 8 days into pct. I went from 188 14% bf to 202 11%bf weight hasnt changed and i still feel strong and have been getting plenty of food in me. My goal is to lean bulk. I understand I'm still "young" to be taking steroids and I understand the health risks im taking as well, so please don't try to talk me out of it. One question I do have is for a first time tren user should I run the test or the tren at the higher dose? I always read Low test high tren will give less sides. Thoughts on that matter? I'm open to suggestions or any other feedback on the cycle below, thanks!

Test prop- 125 mg eod Week 1-10
Tren ace- 75 mg eod Week 1-7 start at 200mg to see if u can handle it and if so up it to 300mg. Plus why only 7 weeks? I would do 8 wk min
Anadrol - 50 mg ed Week 5-8 no need for this IMO
Caber .5mg 2 x's week 1-10
Arimidex .25 mg eod 1-10
HCG 500 IU Week 1-10

PCT
Clomid 100, 75, 50, 50
No nolva?
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5 no need for a AI on pct
3 grams DAA/day 4 weeks

My opinion in bold

**cwoodfield31** · 12-06-2014, 02:25 PM

Thanks for the reply, Tice! I could only get one picture from my phone to my laptop, its being a pain in the ass. But this was taken last night before bed. So you could be the judge, my bf could be off just a little.

Test prop, tren ace, anadrol 3rd cycle-imag1598.jpg

I've made a few tweaks to my original cycle above. I have the addition of anadrol to really finish my cycle strong. I'm not dead set on running this compound, but I want to get the most out of this cycle as I can and take advantage of my on time. More isnt always better though, what do you guys think of the anadrol? Should I drop it or maybe substitute it with a different oral? Open to all opinion guys!

T Prop- 125mg eod Week 1-10
Tren ace- 50mg eod Week 1-2
Tren ace 75-100 mg eod Week3-9 (if i can handle sides)
Anadrol- 50 mg eod Week 7-10
Caber- .5 mg 2 x's week 1-10
Adex- .25 mg eod Week 1-10
HCG 500 iu's Week 1-10

PCT
Clomid 100,75,50,50
Nolva 40,20,20,20
3 grams DAA/day 4 weeks.

**cwoodfield31** · 12-06-2014, 02:31 PM

Here's the back picture I was going to upload, finally got it working.

Test prop, tren ace, anadrol 3rd cycle-imag1585_1.jpg

**carbo** · 12-06-2014, 05:15 PM

Having your next cycle planned 8 days into your PCT...it's gonna be long wait til April, I can tell you that much...

**tice1212** · 12-06-2014, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by cwoodfield31

Thanks for the reply, Tice! I could only get one picture from my phone to my laptop, its being a pain in the ass. But this was taken last night before bed. So you could be the judge, my bf could be off just a little.

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I've made a few tweaks to my original cycle above. I have the addition of anadrol to really finish my cycle strong. I'm not dead set on running this compound, but I want to get the most out of this cycle as I can and take advantage of my on time. More isnt always better though, what do you guys think of the anadrol? Should I drop it or maybe substitute it with a different oral? Open to all opinion guys!

T Prop- 125mg eod Week 1-10
Tren ace- 50mg eod Week 1-2
Tren ace 75-100 mg eod Week3-9 (if i can handle sides)
Anadrol- 50 mg eod Week 7-10
Caber- .5 mg 2 x's week 1-10
Adex- .25 mg eod Week 1-10
HCG 500 iu's Week 1-10

PCT
Clomid 100,75,50,50
Nolva 40,20,20,20
3 grams DAA/day 4 weeks.

U look soild bro. Yeah 11% high 10's. Tren is the god of aas. So I dont think u need an oral in this cycle. See what the tren does to u and if ur not impressed then run an oral. But honestly I have tried sdrol clone and it was amazing but that shit made me feel lethargic and not motivated at all. No drive what so ever. Thats the only reason im going to say away from hard orals like that.

**< <Samson> >** · 12-06-2014, 06:50 PM

Lol - good luck with pct - I already know where planning cycles ahead gets you.

Looking solid though

I'd say skip the oral - injectables are enough. Pills suck and aren't worth it IMO.

As far as the tren ace & test. I'd do a higher tren to test ratio.

**mark woods** · 12-06-2014, 08:03 PM

I would run test low around 200mg ew and you could taper up the tren if you like each week to see how you handle the sides you shouldn't need an oral if your tren is gtg 50 eod you should be fine.good luck you have a long wait tho

**cwoodfield31** · 12-06-2014, 10:24 PM

Haha tell me about it! my pct first time around was bunk so i had quite a rough experience back in march haha im just thankful my stuff now is gtg so this seems like a breeze compared to last

**cwoodfield31** · 12-06-2014, 10:28 PM

Alright, you guys have convinced me to drop the oral haha. so as for higher tren to test ratio's what would be most optimal for a first time user? Should i try 75mg eod of tren a and 50mg eod of test prop? seems a little on the low side for dosages, but if this is what will help minimize sides then I'm all for it.

**mark woods** · 12-07-2014, 01:28 AM

I would say that's good but do 50mg eod of tren and work upto 75mg.no point diving straight in, using 50mg u will see it after 1 week,and assess from there good luck

**Back In Black** · 12-07-2014, 03:04 AM

You should add nolva to your current, and future, PCT's ASAP.

**kelkel** · 12-07-2014, 11:56 AM

Good read here for you op:

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...ly-thread.html

**cwoodfield31** · 01-03-2015, 01:14 AM

If anyone is still following this thread, PCT went well and i kept a decent amount of gains. 197. so down 5 pounds of water but i look a bit leaner to compensate so im ok with that!

**pavlenko** · 01-03-2015, 04:16 AM

50mg prop ed 50mg tren ed for 8 weeks, if you feel you can up the tren after afew weeks go up in 25mg inrements per week but keep test as 50mg ed.

**cwoodfield31** · 01-09-2015, 01:57 AM

What do you guys think about the addition of Proviron at 50mg ED from the start of week 5 through 2 weeks into my pct1?

**Chicagotarsier** · 01-09-2015, 03:06 AM

I see the opinions on low test and allowing the second steroid to be the workhorse have changed on this site. 8 months ago that was taboo. I wonder why the minds here have changed their opinion on this?

Just curious because this is opposite the advice from posts not too long ago..... does "lean bulk" make the difference?

**qscgugcsq** · 01-09-2015, 07:27 AM

I didnt read every post so I might repeat. sry about.that...

just to gives you an idea I ran up to 700mg tren per week with 250mg test and I gave up in 2 weeks sides were too much...

Ive ran 150mg EOD with 250mg/week of test sides were high but bearable.

ive ran 100mg eod of tren with 500mg test a week. sides were worst that 150 EOD with low test.

so low test high tren highly reduce the sides.

50 EOD of tren is very low
75 EOD is safe but very small dose.
100 EOD is often the sweet spot.

keep in mind that the longer you are on tren the harsher it becomes.

so if you stsrt low and increase and increase again. after 8 weeks 100mg EOD might seems harsher than it is..

I prefer taper down than taper up.
just my personnal preference.

Obviously dropping the oral is a great idea for a first time tren.

I advice 50mg EOD test prop + 100 EOD tren.

Tren is a strong drugs and 350 is a good dose few.sides and the best gain...
I almost havent gained anything at 700mg cause I was lethargic as **** and couldnt get a good night of sleep...

**Buster Brown** · 01-09-2015, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by cwoodfield31

What do you guys think about the addition of Proviron at 50mg ED from the start of week 5 through 2 weeks into my pct1?

Pro v is a oral roid .....how would that help during pct? Exactly, it wouldn't.

**Buster Brown** · 01-09-2015, 08:37 AM

I am still a fan of 1:1 for a first go of tes/tren with the dosages being 100 mgs of each eod. I see no need to add drol into this mix as it could potentially complicate things. The sides do creep up with tren the longer you are on so be aware if you go ahead with your cycle and think about extending it.

**swolehead** · 01-09-2015, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier

I see the opinions on low test and allowing the second steroid to be the workhorse have changed on this site. 8 months ago that was taboo. I wonder why the minds here have changed their opinion on this?

Just curious because this is opposite the advice from posts not too long ago..... does "lean bulk" make the difference?

I think it's because the more people learn about it and try it the more likely people rare to give the advice of what there doing. personaly I don't go over 200 test a week