Confusion between Test E and Injecting

**Antonmoroz** · 12-08-2014, 06:21 PM

I have Testosterone Enanthate by Sci-Tec LAB 250mg/ml contains 10mL
and i have these needles i got of my friend and they go by mL not by mg's so im kind of confused what to go by , either buy needles that go by mg's or go by mL's.
Dont understand exactly how much to take out from the sealed mixture, is mL accurate on these needles , so confused please help..!

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**swolehead** · 12-08-2014, 06:28 PM

250mg/ml means one ml of it has 250 mg do you know how to even cycle properly this question scares me to ask more.

**Antonmoroz** · 12-08-2014, 06:34 PM

Oh i knew that haha thanks anyway , i was just not sure about the needles i thought they go in different measurements or something thanks a lot anyway

Yes i have a very well planned cycle including good pct and AI's

**derekkpapa1** · 12-08-2014, 07:03 PM

Whats your stats and full cycle plan?

**Times Roman** · 12-08-2014, 07:06 PM

thought so.

not only are you very inexperienced in education (a mg/ml conversion is 9th grade level), you are inexperienced in this lifestyle. also evident by your question

And when I checked, you are only 18.

So you need to stop what you are thinking and what you are doing. you have no clue and you have not considered not only the short term but the long term negative health aspects of what you are doing.

read marcus' thread the young and steroids . maybe he will pop in and show you where to go with this thought of yours.

Good luck, and don't use steroids
---Roman

**DrewZ** · 12-08-2014, 11:08 PM

Yes ^ read:
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

**itsjayman02** · 12-09-2014, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

thought so.

not only are you very inexperienced in education (a mg/ml conversion is 9th grade level), you are inexperienced in this lifestyle. also evident by your question

And when I checked, you are only 18.

So you need to stop what you are thinking and what you are doing. you have no clue and you have not considered not only the short term but the long term negative health aspects of what you are doing.

read marcus' thread the young and steroids . maybe he will pop in and show you where to go with this thought of yours.

Good luck, and don't use steroids
---Roman

He will cycle anyway the dark side has him!!

**Gaspaco** · 12-09-2014, 02:52 AM

Have no WORDS when I see threads like this...

**PistolPete33** · 12-09-2014, 07:45 AM

If I have $100 and I need to buy something for $50 will I get $377 in change? WTF!!!!

**lovbyts** · 12-09-2014, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by PistolPete33

If I have $100 and I need to buy something for $50 will I get $377 in change? WTF!!!!

Oh dont pick on him. You know the brain is not fully developed at 18 and it's like picking on someone mentally challenged.

**qscgugcsq** · 12-09-2014, 08:04 AM

^^^my step brother is mentally challenged and still can do basic math... damn he has his own appartment, job and live by himself, do his budget and food and grocery...

not to bash but if you are unable to do that kind of calculation by yourself you should not play with needle and still less with steroids ...

using that kind of drugs require a minimum of intelligence...

**Juced_porkchop** · 12-09-2014, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Antonmoroz

I have Testosterone Enanthate by Sci-Tec LAB 250mg/ml contains 10mL
and i have these needles i got of my friend and they go by mL not by mg's so im kind of confused what to go by , either buy needles that go by mg's or go by mL's.
Dont understand exactly how much to take out from the sealed mixture, is mL accurate on these needles , so confused please help..!

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well ofcourse your pin doesnt come in mgs.... : /

250mg/ml means each ml = 250mg.. so one ml in your pin = 250mg.
hope that helps.
I do think maybe you need to not start for a little while and research over and over because I have a feeling you might not be ready, no offense.

do you have an AI? PCT? whats your stats? like age, height , etc?

**Juced_porkchop** · 12-09-2014, 04:00 PM

You are not finished development till around age 25. using stuff like this during development might stop it and/or mess it up, and that is for LIFE!

Give away what you got..... : /

**Antonmoroz** · 12-09-2014, 05:43 PM

The reason i asked that question is because my friends injected for me during summer and i didnt bother doing it myself so thats why i didnt know anything about this.
My stats are
18 yo 178cm 82kg 11% bf 15 inch arms 23 inch quads dont know any other measurements of the body but yeah thats pretty much it, oh ya and max bench only 95kg
. Its so hard to stay natural when all your friends around ya are doing steroids and gaining more and saying it is right good and safe.....
i did a year naturally and did my first cycle when i just turned 18 in may
did 7 weeks of dbol , first 2 weeks 30mg then the rest 5 weeks 50mg ed
rested one week after it went on Test Prop for 4 weeks 100mg every monday and thursday
Never did any PCT learned the hardway , testosterone levels are recovered thats what my doctor said anyway normal test levels are 9 - 36 , mine were 18..
I have read about Young & Steroids , i do know the risks and side effects and i have cycled before its my own decision i just wanted some help out here :/
I am educated enough now about the cycle and the pct
My estrogen is high enough naturally i got gyno look naturally before by eating load of soy and eating load of fat foods and unhealthy processed foods.
The cycle i am going to do will look like this :
1-3 weeks Tamoxifen 40mg a day to lower the estrogen before the cycle
3-5 weeks Test E by Sci-Tec Lab 250mg Monday and Thursday to build it up slowly until it kicks in, and run Alphabol Dbol 50mg ed with it
5-6 weeks increase the dose to 500mg at once and inject once a week from now on every Thursday, Still Running dbol with it 50mg a day, use Tamoxifen again if nipples start getn sensitive , puffy or hurting. another question i have to ask on this forum is can you run tamoxifen while on cycle will it affect the gains iv read before that it might.
6-8 weeks Test E 500mg 1wk/Thursday, Dbol 50mg a day, Arimidex 1mg 3 times a week because i was told it so strong and looked it up before
8-10 weeks Test 500mg 1wk/Thursday, maybe buy more DBOL for 2 weeks if nt happy with the gains , still running 1mg of arimidex 3 times a week
10-12 weeks Just Test E 500mg 1wk/ and Arimidex 1mg 3 times a week
12-15 weeks Lower Test E to 250mg a week for better recovery, and still using arimidex 1 mg 3 times a week
Iv read that i have to start HCG 10 days after my last injections if im using long esters like TEST E, and it stays in ur system up to 21 days after the last injection , so my goal is to have HCG recovered me as just my Test E runs out of the system so then i can start my SERM therapy with Clomid and Nolvadex . Im planning to use HCG for 10 days straight with 500iu Everyday injection with some Vitamin E.
While im resting 10 days before i start my HCG after the last injection i was thinking to use Clenbuterol during that period because i read it on one of the threads here that it helps to protect the muscle not sure about that one though and who wouldnt want to protect muscles while getn lean. After im done with the hcg im planning to use Clomid and Tamoxifen for recovery
i will be using both of them for 6 weeks
week 1 clom 150mg/ed Tamoxifen 40mg /ed
week 2 clomd 150m/ed Tamoxifen 40mg/ed
week 3 clomid 100mg/ed Tamoxifen 20mg/ed
week 4 clomid 100mg/ed Tamoxifen 20mg/ed
week 5 clomid 50mg/ed Tamoxifen 10mg/ed
week 6 optional will do it clomid 50mg/ed Tamoxifen 10mg/ed
reason im going so high on clomid is its nt as strong as tamoxifen and wont match it for mg's
Sorry for asking stupid questions about mg's and ml's but im still learning and looking for help here.
Can anyone please tell me if my cycle is wrong or correct me in some bits as i am still learning
In my opinion this cycle looks safe enough to me , i know i probably will keep 2/10 of the gains but still i just want to get that feeling again of working out with great endurance strength and good pumps.

**lovbyts** · 12-09-2014, 06:34 PM

Its hard not to be in a gang when all your peeps around you are. Its hard to not be a common thief when all your friends are. Its hard not not be an idiot when all your friends are...

You'll go a long way giving I to peer pressure all your life.

Good luck.

**Antonmoroz** · 12-09-2014, 06:40 PM

Its my choice though i know they are so bad for me especially at this age but i want to do em and i decided to do em. Do you not think the cycle i am going to go through is safe enough??? Thanks anyway...

**PistolPete33** · 12-09-2014, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Antonmoroz

Its my choice though i know they are so bad for me especially at this age but i want to do em and i decided to do em. Do you not think the cycle i am going to go through is safe enough??? Thanks anyway...

You will prob. end up in the hospital with an infection doing this cycle.

**lovbyts** · 12-09-2014, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Antonmoroz

Its my choice though i know they are so bad for me especially at this age but i want to do em and i decided to do em. Do you not think the cycle i am going to go through is safe enough??? Thanks anyway...

Sure, just like riding a motorcycle without a helmet is a good idea, until you crash. At your age and stage in life the only good/safe way it to not do them yet and wait. You have made it very clear you are also very lacking in knowledge about aas and even how to administer them properly. Ill bet you spend more time researching and deciding what video game to buy than you have about aas.

**Schwarzenegger** · 12-10-2014, 04:04 AM

Wow. That's the ugliest/crappiest cycle I've seen in a long time. Even an hr or 2 of research on ur own would have given u the info u need, including how serm's work.

So much wrong with that cycle, no point in even starting to rectify it. Ur gonna do it anyway so have at 'er.

**itsjayman02** · 12-10-2014, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by Antonmoroz

The reason i asked that question is because my friends injected for me during summer and i didnt bother doing it myself so thats why i didnt know anything about this.
My stats are
18 yo 178cm 82kg 11% bf 15 inch arms 23 inch quads dont know any other measurements of the body but yeah thats pretty much it, oh ya and max bench only 95kg
. Its so hard to stay natural when all your friends around ya are doing steroids and gaining more and saying it is right good and safe.....
i did a year naturally and did my first cycle when i just turned 18 in may
did 7 weeks of dbol , first 2 weeks 30mg then the rest 5 weeks 50mg ed
rested one week after it went on Test Prop for 4 weeks 100mg every monday and thursday
Never did any PCT learned the hardway , testosterone levels are recovered thats what my doctor said anyway normal test levels are 9 - 36 , mine were 18..
I have read about Young & Steroids , i do know the risks and side effects and i have cycled before its my own decision i just wanted some help out here :/
I am educated enough now about the cycle and the pct
My estrogen is high enough naturally i got gyno look naturally before by eating load of soy and eating load of fat foods and unhealthy processed foods.
The cycle i am going to do will look like this :
1-3 weeks Tamoxifen 40mg a day to lower the estrogen before the cycle
3-5 weeks Test E by Sci-Tec Lab 250mg Monday and Thursday to build it up slowly until it kicks in, and run Alphabol Dbol 50mg ed with it
5-6 weeks increase the dose to 500mg at once and inject once a week from now on every Thursday, Still Running dbol with it 50mg a day, use Tamoxifen again if nipples start getn sensitive , puffy or hurting. another question i have to ask on this forum is can you run tamoxifen while on cycle will it affect the gains iv read before that it might.
6-8 weeks Test E 500mg 1wk/Thursday, Dbol 50mg a day, Arimidex 1mg 3 times a week because i was told it so strong and looked it up before
8-10 weeks Test 500mg 1wk/Thursday, maybe buy more DBOL for 2 weeks if nt happy with the gains , still running 1mg of arimidex 3 times a week
10-12 weeks Just Test E 500mg 1wk/ and Arimidex 1mg 3 times a week
12-15 weeks Lower Test E to 250mg a week for better recovery, and still using arimidex 1 mg 3 times a week
Iv read that i have to start HCG 10 days after my last injections if im using long esters like TEST E, and it stays in ur system up to 21 days after the last injection , so my goal is to have HCG recovered me as just my Test E runs out of the system so then i can start my SERM therapy with Clomid and Nolvadex . Im planning to use HCG for 10 days straight with 500iu Everyday injection with some Vitamin E.
While im resting 10 days before i start my HCG after the last injection i was thinking to use Clenbuterol during that period because i read it on one of the threads here that it helps to protect the muscle not sure about that one though and who wouldnt want to protect muscles while getn lean. After im done with the hcg im planning to use Clomid and Tamoxifen for recovery
i will be using both of them for 6 weeks
week 1 clom 150mg/ed Tamoxifen 40mg /ed
week 2 clomd 150m/ed Tamoxifen 40mg/ed
week 3 clomid 100mg/ed Tamoxifen 20mg/ed
week 4 clomid 100mg/ed Tamoxifen 20mg/ed
week 5 clomid 50mg/ed Tamoxifen 10mg/ed
week 6 optional will do it clomid 50mg/ed Tamoxifen 10mg/ed
reason im going so high on clomid is its nt as strong as tamoxifen and wont match it for mg's
Sorry for asking stupid questions about mg's and ml's but im still learning and looking for help here.
Can anyone please tell me if my cycle is wrong or correct me in some bits as i am still learning
In my opinion this cycle looks safe enough to me , i know i probably will keep 2/10 of the gains but still i just want to get that feeling again of working out with great endurance strength and good pumps.

^^^^^This belongs in the hall of shame!!

**aussie made** · 12-10-2014, 04:29 AM

Wtf did I just read. This is the WORST steroid cycle I have seen in a long time. Where the fuk have you been researching? Your way to young. You will be on trt before you hit 25. Read what a novice cycle plan looks like, then explain where the fuk yours came from.

**dghartley** · 12-10-2014, 07:28 AM

Good luck bro, people do what they're going to do. Im 23 which is to young but I'm enjoying my cycle and the results.

Edit: just read your cycle... Oh shit son, ohhh shit

**qscgugcsq** · 12-10-2014, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by dghartley

Good luck bro, people do what they're going to do. Im 23 which is to young but I'm enjoying my cycle and the results.

Edit: just read your cycle... Oh shit son, ohhh shit

there is a huge difference between 23 and 18...

if 25 is safe you are just 2 year away and 25 is just a general age where HPTA finish developping.
at 23 you might be perfectly fine.

but at 18 you cant be fine its just too young...

next time keep that stupid comment for yourself

**itsjayman02** · 12-10-2014, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

there is a huge difference between 23 and 18...

if 25 is safe you are just 2 year away and 25 is just a general age where HPTA finish developping.
at 23 you might be perfectly fine.

but at 18 you cant be fine its just too young...

next time keep that stupid comment for yourself

Dont need the heating on i feel there is gonna be flames!!

**dghartley** · 12-10-2014, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

there is a huge difference between 23 and 18... if 25 is safe you are just 2 year away and 25 is just a general age where HPTA finish developping. at 23 you might be perfectly fine. but at 18 you cant be fine its just too young... next time keep that stupid comment for yourself

He's going to do it either way which I stated at the start.

I have a family friend in his 40's who started cycles when he was 18 years old and he is healthy and married with 3 kids.

Why give him so much shit? He's already started previously the only thing which can help is advice at this stage of PCT, diet and warnings he needs to look out for, plus correcting his dumb ass cycle.

**itsjayman02** · 12-10-2014, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by dghartley

He's going to do it either way which I stated at the start.

I have a family friend in his 40's who started cycles when he was 18 years old and he is healthy and married with 3 kids.

Why give him so much shit? He's already started previously the only thing which can help is advice at this stage of PCT, diet and warnings he needs to look out for, plus correcting his dumb ass cycle.

You have a family friend who is fine !!!!

I have dozens of friends who are not and its through cycling too young and not minimising the risks.

Please dont give bad advice his cycle dont need correcting because the op shouldnt be cycling!!

**Antonmoroz** · 12-10-2014, 11:44 AM

I am going to cycle it anyway because i have all the stuff bought already. Everyone seems to say the cycle is bad but ye wont tell me whats wrong with it, maybe Test e and Dbol are nt good for keeping gains and the only gains i am going to get is water, i know that and i dont care really i just want to look good while on it. But can ye tell me whats wrong with the pct? I got my pct knowledge from steroid .com / how to come off steroids (i cant post any URL's)
and i have read one of the threads here by Drummer Boy Post Cycle Therapy

**dghartley** · 12-10-2014, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by itsjayman02

You have a family friend who is fine !!!! I have dozens of friends who are not and its through cycling too young and not minimising the risks. Please dont give bad advice his cycle dont need correcting because the op shouldnt be cycling!!

But he is, has and I'm sure he will carry it on, no matter how many times he's told otherwise.

I'm sorry to hear about your friends.

**swolehead** · 12-10-2014, 01:53 PM

ye s but by condoning him to do it we are with all people his age and that's not the way we do things here

**Juced_porkchop** · 12-10-2014, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Sure, just like riding a motorcycle without a helmet is a good idea, until you crash. At your age and stage in life the only good/safe way it to not do them yet and wait. You have made it very clear you are also very lacking in knowledge about aas and even how to administer them properly. Ill bet you spend more time researching and deciding what video game to buy than you have about aas.

I agree with you on this one. PLEASE op just stop for a while and think..

**Baxter35** · 12-10-2014, 05:58 PM

OP, I know it feels like we're just a bunch of a-holes getting our kicks by picking on you, but please realize everyone who tells you to stay away from steroids has your best interest in mind. You're young, you're uneducated on steroids, and that's okay. We've all been young and done dumb stuff in the past, that's what happens when you're 18. Take our advice. Spend the next 5-6 years training as hard as you can naturally and focusing on a great nutritional plan to go with it. If you're still interested in aas by that time, then maybe you can try it out. At your age, chances are good that in 6 years you wont even be interested in lifting anymore. Also, without the proper diet and training in place, you'll likely lose any gains anyway. Aside from the possibility of damaging your hpta system, that's another reason its best to wait. The more experienced you are at training natural, the better the chance to have proper training and nutrition figured out.

**Antonmoroz** · 12-10-2014, 08:03 PM

I have done year naturally and i know most of the stuff about nutrition my body needs. I have decided to do them i am not going to change my mind , i will take advices and listen to everyone but at the end of the day i will do my own thing. I know that you have to eat a lot of protein and carbs,fats even without steroids , sleep 8-10 hrs a day , drink 2-4litres of water a day, i have done all that for the past year. I gained 14kg naturally went up from 66kg to 80kg in a year. I know that your probably safe to use them after your 25 but i wont need all this lifting by then, i need it now so i am going to do this cycle soon, and i have read load of threads about PCT's , PCT by drummerboy here, PCT by Anthony Roberts on some other forum , and How To Come Of Steroids on this website too..

**Antonmoroz** · 12-10-2014, 08:06 PM

Also i cycled before, i know all the members are only looking out for me here, but i am still going to do them and i need to learn more here , i dont need all these replys your too young because i am not going to change my mind :/

**Schwarzenegger** · 12-10-2014, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Antonmoroz

Also i cycled before, i know all the members are only looking out for me here, but i am still going to do them and i need to learn more here , i dont need all these replys your too young because i am not going to change my mind :/

We all know u ain't gonna change ur mind. At least pick a cycle that's not as stupidly put together. U've been reading a lot of the wrong and outdated stuff to come up with that shit cycle. So read more.

**Baxter35** · 12-10-2014, 08:30 PM

Having cycled before doesn't mean anything. Just because you made a mistake once doesn't mean you have to go and do it again. Fwiw, your first cycle was a mess anyway, dbol only followed by test prop at 100mg twice a week only shows how uneducated you are with this stuff. I understand you're going to do what you're going to do, but I for one don't feel comfortable offering any advice other than not to do it.