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    mmedina42 is offline New Member
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    1st injection cycle

    age- 25
    height- 5'9
    weight- 190
    bf- 18%

    Hello, I am very new to this forum, was wondering if I could get some input.

    I have ran some pro hormone cycles in my past (epistane, tren , halo, winny), and when I was 22 I did my first AAS, Anavar (which I loved).

    I currently have 1 vial of 10ml Sustanon -350 (yes 350, not 250) and will more than likely get another bottle (it will be 250) because I am thinking I will need 2 vials for the cycle.

    I plan on stacking that with Tren Ace & Anavar. I am wondering if 6-8 weeks would be an adequate cycle time ?

    PCT will be nolva, and HCG . debating on what AI, and I am also considering something to combat increase of progesterone (I saw gyno during my PCT when I ran tren as a pro hormone).

    also, would it be wise to also add Fina to reduce hair loss?

    Let me know if I am going in the right direction! Any help greatly appreciated!

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    Quick and easy answer.... have all gear ready before cycle is rule one. I wouldnt run less than 8 weeks with test only. I would not stack anything with it until you see how you react to test only. I would suggest posting diet also because that will be more important than anything else in this thread...

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    Sus is a long Esther which should be run a minimum of 12 weeks ( preferably 14). Tren a is not a wise choice at your level.....the var is ok. Why not give it some thought and rewrite your proposed cycle and we can tweak it further.

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    definitely understand that Pewn, thats why I inquired, now going with what Buster said & removing tren from my stack. Now I know I will be running Sus & Var only. diet will be as follows:
    protein - 1.5g Per Pound of body weight rest day / 2g training day
    carb- 1.5g pp rest day / 2g training day
    fat - 0.5g pp and about 30% of total daily calories

    diet is that of a person about 180 lbs, and the meals are not set in stone as my protein sources will vary from lean red meat, fish, and chicken/turkey.

    BREAKFAST 1
    (Immediately upon waking)
    1 scoop Whey Protein 1/2 medium cantaloupe
    BREAKFAST 2
    (30-60 minutes after shake and cantaloupe) 3 whole eggs
    3 egg whites
    1 Tbsp Olive oil
    1 slice lowfat American cheese
    (scramble eggs cook in olive oil and add cheese to melt)
    2 cups cooked Oatmeal
    LATE MORNING SNACK
    1 cup low-fat cottage cheese
    1 cup sliced pineapple
    (mix pineapple in cottage cheese) 1 Cliff bar (any flavor)
    LUNCH
    1 can albacore tuna
    2 slices whole wheat bread
    1 Tbsp light mayonnaise
    1 large piece of fruit (apple, orange, banana, etc.)
    AFTERNOON SNACK
    1 scoop Whey Protein
    1 Tbsp Peanut butter
    1 Tbsp Jam
    2 slices whole wheat bread
    (make PB sandwich to eat with shake)
    DINNER
    8 oz. salmon
    1 cup chopped broccoli
    2 cups mixed green Salad
    2 Tbsp salad dressing (olive oil n vinegar)
    BEFORE BED SNACK
    1 scoop Casein protein 1 Tbsp Peanut butter

    PREWORKOUT (WITHIN 30 MINUTES BEFORE WORKOUTS)
    1 large apple

    PRE/DURING/POST-WORKOUT SHAKE
    Whey Protein: 1 – 2 scoops
    Casein Protein: 1 – 2 scoops
    BCAAs: 5 grams
    Creatine: 1.5 – 5 grams
    Beta-alanine: 1.5 – 3 grams
    Betaine: 1.5 – 2 grams

    POSTWORKOUT (WITHIN 30 MINUTES AFTER WORKOUTS)
    Vitargo
    BCAAs: 5 grams
    Creatine: 1.5 – 5 grams
    Beta-alanine: 1.5 – 3 grams
    Betaine: 1.5 – 2 grams
    Carnitine: 1 – 2 grams
    Glutamine: 3 – 5 grams
    TOTALS
    3100 CALORIES, 265 G PROTEIN, 260 G CARBS, 110 G FAT

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    Looks good. math may be off looks like a 35 35 30 split ? Run 500mg a week for 12 weeks and see how you respond. Honestly I would up the calories a little more but if you are seeing good results then go for it.

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    No need to take something for progesterone if your using just sust and anavar .

    Run HCG throughout cycle

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    I am going to go against most forum talk and say no to hcg during cycle. After reading articles about hcg function I feel its anti beneficial to run along side test.

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    hmm where did i go wrong with my split Pewn? i thought the same as far as calories go, but ideally I would like to be 180-190 with about 8% less body fat, so I'm just aiming for clean gains that will last during my PCT (hoping to keep roughly 70%). GSXR, I was only going to use something for progesterone in the event that I was going to run tren . that leaves me with the final question of whether or not i should run Fina since I'm supplementing a DHT & Test. Also, I agree with Pewn about HCG I would not run it until the end of my cycle, the week of my last injection.

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