Wanting to start my first cycle 18 years old

Hey guys, I am 18, 168cm tall, and 68Kg.

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I know the risk of taking steroids at such a young age, and infact yes, I just can't wait.
I had been going the gym for 3 years and I would really like to take it to the next level.
I don't want to look massive I just want to achieve a physique that is pleasing to the eye.
Should I try Tren Test & Clen?
But I heard not to start tren on your first cycle?
Could someone please help me?
Thanks in advance :)

I am currently bulking and by the end of this year I would like to achieve a single digit bf, I guess I am around 14% bf now?
Anyway I would not be on a cycle if I did not have enough knowledge about it, so please help me with it!

Can you detail the risks that you know of?

At the age of 18 stay away from steroids

You are too young, you wont get much advice past this statement here. Do your research and learn as much as you can, but if you do decide to go ahead with it, do it smart, baby steps. But again, you are too young for this, you have plenty of time to gain and learn naturally.

Acne
Kidney failure
Hair loss
Heart problems
And the one I am more worried about is that my body will stop producing natural test

I mean look at people like jeff seid, he is 20 years old and I am pretty sure he is on juice.
I just don't think I can have the fullness of the muscle after getting a low bf percentage

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Originally Posted by Chunnnky

I mean look at people like jeff seid, he is 20 years old and I am pretty sure he is on juice.
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And look at his mentor zyoz** or wtever his name was who dropped dead at the same age due to stupidity ..

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Originally Posted by Rida5d

And look at his mentor zyoz** or wtever his name was who dropped dead at the same age due to stupidity ..

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I think you are talking about Aziz or ****, anyway the thing is I had been going to the gym since I am 15, I eat right when I am cutting and I go to the gym 5 times a week.
I had tried almost all the supplements on the market, and I see my acquaintance who is on juice putting on 1kg per week and still looking ripped.
I don't think I could achieve the vascularity and seperation of the different muscle group being natural

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to get on steroids because my friends are using it, no.
I am going into the navy serving the nation at the age of 20 for 2 years.
I know I would barely have anytime for bodybuilding when I am 20 - 22.
I am afraid that I would regret that i did not seize the opportunity achieving my dreams of how I want myself to look like, and I could not live with that.

At the age of 18 you are legally an adult and you are free to do what you want when u want it..

Now , regardless the reasons u have to do steroids , I'm telling that at your age the risk is so high .. You have some golden years waiting for you , and if you ll screw your undeveloped Hpta cycling at that age , you ll be the to suffer , not me..

Think twice young man .. It's your body .. No spare parts..

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Originally Posted by Rida5d

At the age of 18 you are legally an adult and you are free to do what you want when u want it..

Now , regardless the reasons u have to do steroids , I'm telling that at your age the risk is so high .. You have some golden years waiting for you , and if you ll screw your undeveloped Hpta cycling at that age , you ll be the to suffer , not me..

Think twice young man .. It's your body .. No spare parts..

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Thanks for telling me that, what age do you think I should start cycling?
I am always aware that bodybuilding, something which I had so much passion in which saved me from getting picked on in school is gonna be the reason of my death someday in the future.
What I can say is that I have a clear life goal I know what I want and I would do anything to achieve it.
What do you think the first cycle should be at the recommended age?

At the age of 24/25 .. Most likely you have completely developed at that age..

Read this:

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

I got my first weight set at 13, trained on and off, serious at times, through the years and kept in good shape. From 25-29 I was very serious and dedicated to the gym and at the age of 29 I did my first cycle. You are correct, you will not get striations and the muscle separation and vascularity after 3 years in the gym from 15-18. Your body is still learning and so is your mind, these things you want come with time and years of dedication, maturity of mind and body. You see your friend achieving some of these things, but watch what happens later, when the gains go away and the depression sets in, then later on down the road when his system is shot and can't run without medication. This is not a game for kids, not just because of the physical risks, the mental risks far out weigh the physical. Do some research on how many young kids kill themselves or end up on drugs and ruin their lives because of the mental games these hormones can play on you. It messes with us older guys still, and we have the maturity and experience to help get us through it. You are going to do what you ultimately want to do, but you need to really sit down and do some soul searching and really see if these risks are worth taking for a little bit of vanity and impatients. Stick around here and learn about diet and training, everything you want to achieve can be done with knowledge, hard work, and patients. Good luck kid, I hope you make the right decision.

Thanks for telling me all these.
Since I am still a young padawan and so many people who had walked the same path told me to lay it off till later, it would be stupid of me not to listen to you guys.
I am glad I came here and ask about it before I start jabbing needles into myself.
Could you give me any tips to get the sepration and vascularity ?

good luck

many your age do not fully appreciate their own mortality, regardless what anyone tells them.

I certainly didn't listen to anyone that didnt' say anything than other than what I wanted to hear when I was your age. I was a pretty smart fukker so why would there be a need for me to listen?

And since you won't really listen to what the common consensus of the board is (that you are too young), then I will save my breath for other things more productive.

Roman

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good luck

many your age do not fully appreciate their own mortality, regardless what anyone tells them.

I certainly didn't listen to anyone that didnt' say anything than other than what I wanted to hear when I was your age. I was a pretty smart fukker so why would there be a need for me to listen?

And since you won't really listen to what the common consensus of the board is (that you are too young), then I will save my breath for other things more productive.

Roman

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No TR

Looks like this young man is willing to listen

Get marcus in here

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Originally Posted by Times Roman

good luck

many your age do not fully appreciate their own mortality, regardless what anyone tells them.

I certainly didn't listen to anyone that didnt' say anything than other than what I wanted to hear when I was your age. I was a pretty smart fukker so why would there be a need for me to listen?

And since you won't really listen to what the common consensus of the board is (that you are too young), then I will save my breath for other things more productive.

Roman

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Haha I am willing to listen, you guys know more about these than I do.
It will be like a teacher is telling you 2+2=4 but you keep insist that it is 5.
This is the reason why I came here anyway to get suggestions and knowledge.
Anyway will Clen fck me up in anyway?

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Haha I am willing to listen, you guys know more about these than I do.
It will be like a teacher is telling you 2+2=4 but you keep insist that it is 5.
This is the reason why I came here anyway to get suggestions and knowledge.
Anyway will Clen fck me up in anyway?

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Ok, I guess I was wrong then?

If you have a healthy heart, and the amount and duration of clen is reasonable, if you feel like experimenting, this is a compound you could try. Personally, I hate the shit, but to each his own I guess...?

Why would you hate clen?
Does it work? I know its not a miracle drug that gets you shredded overnight, it has to be paired with a clean diet.
If it doesn't work what is the hype about it then?

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Originally Posted by Chunnnky

Thanks for telling me all these. Since I am still a young padawan and so many people who had walked the same path told me to lay it off till later, it would be stupid of me not to listen to you guys. I am glad I came here and ask about it before I start jabbing needles into myself. Could you give me any tips to get the sepration and vascularity ?

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Both of the things you talked about have a lot to do with genetics. Separation and vascularity. But being as lean as possible is going to give you them.

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Originally Posted by Chunnnky

Hey guys, I am 18, 168cm tall, and 68Kg.



I know the risk of taking steroids at such a young age, and infact yes, I just can't wait.
I had been going the gym for 3 years and I would really like to take it to the next level.
I don't want to look massive I just want to achieve a physique that is pleasing to the eye.
Should I try Tren Test & Clen?
But I heard not to start tren on your first cycle?
Could someone please help me?
Thanks in advance :)

I am currently bulking and by the end of this year I would like to achieve a single digit bf, I guess I am around 14% bf now?
Anyway I would not be on a cycle if I did not have enough knowledge about it, so please help me with it!

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Don't take steroids, you have so much more room to gain naturally. plus if the thing you're worried about most is being shut down, then you have absolutely no reason to even have steroids on your mind because they will shut you down 100% and you'll lose your balls.

At 14% bf and your 68 kilos do you realise your carrying around just above 50 kilos of muscle,

You need to learn so much more before you think of doing this, your very FAR behind.

How about focusing on your nutrition and training? Radical idea but I bet it will work.