test, deca, dbol, and anadrol bulk cycle. ai help!

[jamcity]

Ok my question is what ai is right for this cycle
Week 1-16 test 500 mg ew then hrt dosages
Week 1-16deca 400 mg ew
Week 1-5 dbol 50 mg ed
Week 1-5 anadrol 75 mg ed
I'm starting this super bulk Wednesday and I want to make sure my s**t is straight. I've heard use arimidex by some and others say nolva. I thought nolva was a no no on deca ? Others say camber. While still others say aromasin . Who can give me a correct answer with a understandable reason? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[chris_columbia]

I wouldn't stack dbol and anadrol at the same time, IMO, there have been studies saying that they work synergistically, but I find that to be outdated and the risk of running two orals, especially those two at the same time, outweigh the pros.

[chris_columbia]

I would use arimidex to control your estrogen starting at 0.25mgs ED and caber for prolactin, I'm not to sure of the dosing protocols on that I'm sure another vet will help you out, or simply Google it.

[jamcity]

I tried to Google the protocol first. My exact cycle was not anywhere to be found. Usually ppl run either or but rarely both orals simultaneously. But thanks for the advise

[jamcity]

By the way , I ran both orals individually with little to no side along with a test base. The only obvious side was water retention. And both times I managed to keep about 50% of my gains . Just lucky I guess

[Haydenz]

I would LOVE to know your cycle experience !

[jamcity]

5 cycles starting 5 years ago
First cycle of test 400 for 16 weeks
Second test 400 and dbol same 16 weeks (dbol 5 weeks)
Third test cyphonate 600 mg ew and mast . 5 month blast
Fourth cycle same as second but used anadrol
And I've caused on test 400 at 800 mg ew for the past 12 weeks
I guess my fourth cycle really hasn't ever ended lol. Now I'm starting this cycle Wednesday.

[jamcity]

The orals are always a kick to the cycle obviously. I have never really ran orals very high. The dbol cycle was 30 mg ed, and the drol was 50 mg ed. I super excited to see the results of both orals together at a moderate low dose. Should be great.

[Rida5d]

U must run test more time than deca .. Trust me on this..

[Buster Brown]

How old are you and what are your stats?

[clarky.]

My advice would be to give your body a rest if you've been cruising for the past 12 wks and do a pct. There are lots wrong with this cycle your planing and the information is wrong and all the information you would need to fix this is on this forum. So if i were to fix the above you would not go and read and learn about your Q you need answerd you would just change it and run it.

[pavlenko]

i agree, unless your on hrt there is no reason to run AAS for that long and even if you are on hrt you need to come back down to hrt doses and let your body recover.

[jamcity]

I am 40 yrs old and yes I'm on hrt. I will bring my test down to 200 mg ew after this cycle. I had 6 month break between my third and fourth cycle. There has been 24 weeks since I've taken any orals. I'm very lean at about 10% bf . I'm 6'4 and 200 pounds. And I am running test higher this cycle . 500 mg of test and 400 mg of deca . So again what's the correct ai protocols here guys. Any information would be greatly appreciated

[jamcity]

My advice would be to give your body a rest if you've been cruising for the past 12 wks and do a pct. There are lots wrong with this cycle your planing and the information is wrong and all the information you would need to fix this is on this forum. So if i were to fix the above you would not go and read and learn about your Q you need answerd you would just change it and run it.

I appreciate your advise. I will give my body a rest after I complete this cycle.

[Buster Brown]

You can start adex at .25 eod and monitor your sides from there. If you can get bw done that is the way to go .....if not and sides creep up try .50 e3d. You may want to grab some cab or prami especially if you have a hard time keeping your e2 in check.

[jamcity]

Thanks Buster Brown. That was exactly what I was planning. Your advice confirms my opinion on it.

[kelkel]

By the way , I ran both orals individually with little to no side along with a test base.

And that's confirmed via blood work?

[Rida5d]

And that's confirmed via blood work?

The tricky thing about liver problems is that most of the times they are undetectable .. People go by the feelings which is stupid IMO ..

Unlike high estradiol or high prolactin , which can show their dirty faces in many cases, people abuse their livers by alcohol and Orals and they keep on beating it up , till it shows its problem , but when it's too late..

Thanks for raising the question kel.

[jamcity]

I have blood work done before and after each and every cycle guys. My BP was slightly high after tha anadrol cycle but not much out of the norm. Liver enzymes have never been off yet. I always take liver guard even off cycle. But good question.

[jamcity]

One common mistake made while on orals is to not drink enough water. I drink up to 2 gallons a day on orals and at least one gallon any other time including off cycle. Imo liver toxicity is a bit over rated . Yes orals are toxic but no more than a few shots of patron or vodka... anyone who pops a few advil every day are just as liver taxed as a healthy guy on a 4 week oral cycle. I don't drink or take Oct drugs. I eat clean and maintain good overall aas habits. Everything in excess is potentially bad for ppl. Moderation is the key to a long cycle or continued prolonged use. Just my opinion

[TheKidTilli]

I am starting the EXACT SAME CYCLE tomorrow!!

Dbol lquid oral 50mg/day
Anadrol liquid oral 50mg/day
Deca 400mg.week
Sustanon 750mg. week

Lets keep in touch and compare/share results and advice!!!

[kelkel]

I have blood work done before and after each and every cycle guys. My BP was slightly high after tha anadrol cycle but not much out of the norm. Liver enzymes have never been off yet. I always take liver guard even off cycle. But good question.

Good answer. Glad to hear it.

[jamcity]

I would love to do that. I was considering running my test at a higher level like you but wasn't sure with the deca the best route . Keeping everything to a moderate level at first seems advisable since I'm not sure of the deca affect on my body yet. But hey I would love to run a similar cycle with another person to do a comparison.

[Rida5d]

. Hit me at yahoo.com I'll give u my cell and we can text and share results

^^^^ And here is when u f**ked yourself up.

[jamcity]

^^^^ And here is when u f**ked yourself up.

Your right! What was I thinking. Thanks. It's been edited. ...

[jamcity]

^^^^ And here is when u f**ked yourself up.

Rida5d. Thanks again for pointing out my mistake quickly.

[Rida5d]

Plz. Remove the email address from your reply message Rida5d. Thanks again for pointing out my mistake quickly.

Done..

Be careful man .. It's an opened forum , anyone could be watching ..

And forget the idea of sharing experience on the cell phone

[jamcity]

Agreed. And good point.

[zempey]

You need to spend some time in the diet section. All that gear and you are only 200lbs at 6'4", you need to learn how to eat. Spend some time reading about diet and cycling. You need to slow down, at 40 you are starting to run higher risks of heart along with other issues. I understand how this stuff can become addicting, but you need to learn how do make gains and be healthy without high amounts of gear.

[jamcity]

You need to spend some time in the diet section. All that gear and you are only 200lbs at 6'4", you need to learn how to eat. Spend some time reading about diet and cycling. You need to slow down, at 40 you are starting to run higher risks of heart along with other issues. I understand how this stuff can become addicting, but you need to learn how do make gains and be healthy without high amounts of gear.

I agree. I need to eat more. Tuff to do with my current job but I'm doing my best to gobble up as much protien as possible over the next year . I have a pretty high metabolism.

[jamcity]

On the other side of the coin , I started off at 150 pounds! Lol. I was a stick .

[zempey]

Add some healthy fats and don't be afraid of a little butter or mayo, even a little extra oil in your food. These are very calorie dense, and make it easier to get the calories without gorging yourself. I eat a lot of mixed unsalted nuts, taste great, have lots of health benefits, and are high in calories.

[jamcity]

Add some healthy fats and don't be afraid of a little butter or mayo, even a little extra oil in your food. These are very calorie dense, and make it easier to get the calories without gorging yourself. I eat a lot of mixed unsalted nuts, taste great, have lots of health benefits, and are high in calories.

I will definitely try that. Thanks for the advise.