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    Gyno Problems Again

    My Stats:
    38 years old
    5' 10"
    180lbs
    BF% ~20%

    Cycle Experience
    All cycles completed w/ PCT = Nolva 20mg/day, Clomid 50mg/day for 4-6 weeks

    1st 2006 = Test E 500mg/w for 10 weeks
    Great results

    2nd 2007 = Test C 500mg/w for 12 weeks
    Great results

    3rd 2008 = Test E 600mg/w for 10 weeks, 50mg/DBol for 4 weeks
    Great results, but 1st time I got gyno, was going to run for 12-14 weeks but had to stop at 10.

    4th 2009 = Test C 350mg/w & Nandro 250mg/w for 10 weeks, Tbol 75mg/day for 4 weeks. Adex 0.25mg/EOD
    Still got gyno at 7-8 weeks so doubled Adex to 0.5mg/ED, symptoms persisted so I quit by 10 weeks, wanted to run for 12-14 weeks

    5th 2010 = Test E 300mg/w & Tren 250mg/w, for 7-8 weeks, Adex 0.5/EOD
    Tren was amazing but I had to cut cycle short yet again, still got gyno with increased Adex dose.

    6th 2014 = Test E 500mg/w & Adex 0.5/ED for 7-8 weeks
    Gyno again!

    Gyno usually treated with Letro & symptoms always disappear soon after. I'm getting frustrated, I am getting tired of running 1/2 a cycle. Doubling to 1mg/ED of Adex seems pointless, gyno is appearing earlier in cycle despite increasing Adex dose. I've learned that Aromisan should work better than Adex. My new source has 15mg Exemestane (Aromasin ). I've seen 12.5mg/day recommended dosage but since these pills are 15mg, that's what I'll use.

    I would like to try again, with Test E 500mg/w for 12-14 weeks & Aromasin 15mg/EOD or 15mg/ED.

    1. Is it reasonable to think Aromisan will succeed where Adex failed?
    2. Should I dose 15mg/ED or 15mg/EOD?
    3. If 15mg/EOD & symptoms occur, do I need to stop cycle again or should I try to increase AI dosage for 1-2 weeks 1st?
    4. I know Nolva on cycle reduces gains but should I try something like 10mg/day?

    All help/comments appreciated.

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    I ended up with gyno a week and a half into this cycle, I figure my adex is way under dosed. I have been upping the dose and frequency to try and find the sweet spot. I also started nolvadex , I will run this throughout, I will also start the nolva at the begining of any future cycles along with higher doses of adex. It sucks, but some of us are just more prone to it, but I am not stopping the cycle because of it.

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    Aromasin helped me a lot. The good thing is that aromasin kills estrogen and therefor i don't have a rebound effect. I also use 50mg Proviron . This gave me no probs with 800mg Testo a week

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    Have you ever gotten blood work mid-cycle to see your E2 level?
    Is your adex scripted? Otherwise good?
    Run low dose nolva on cycle. You won't see a bit of difference in gains. After a handful of weeks check E2 and discontinue nolva if on point.
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    Never had blood-work while on cycle - only afterwards to see if my PCT was successful.

    The Adex isn't an RX script, I have Precision Labs Adex from a UG source & have had Adex from other UG labs in the past, never getting the desired result. But I think the Adex is fine, the Precision Labs Nolva, Clomid, & Clen were all legit.

    Nearly forgot that I've already ordered some Proviron along with my Aromasin . I read 50-150mg is normal range so planned to take 75mg/day throughout the cycle.

    What would be a low dose of Nolva? If 20mg/day is used for PCT, is 10mg/day the right dose for on-cycle gyno prevention?

    Also, still wondering about Aromasin dose. 15mg EOD would be normal, but for my case should I try 15mg ED?

    My current strategy is to run the following for 13 weeks:

    Test E 500mg/week
    Proviron 75mg/ED
    Aromasin 15mg/EOD
    Nolvadex 10mg/ED

    Blood-work at 5 weeks after 1st Test E shot, if E2 is good, drop the Nolvadex.

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    I have some proviron , how does it work in terms of reducing gyno? I don't know anything about it and what little I did read wasn't very clear to me. This was given to me by my source, he didn't need it and just gave it to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msoda View Post
    Never had blood-work while on cycle - only afterwards to see if my PCT was successful.

    The Adex isn't an RX script, I have Precision Labs Adex from a UG source & have had Adex from other UG labs in the past, never getting the desired result. But I think the Adex is fine, the Precision Labs Nolva, Clomid, & Clen were all legit.

    Nearly forgot that I've already ordered some Proviron along with my Aromasin . I read 50-150mg is normal range so planned to take 75mg/day throughout the cycle.

    What would be a low dose of Nolva? If 20mg/day is used for PCT, is 10mg/day the right dose for on-cycle gyno prevention?

    Also, still wondering about Aromasin dose. 15mg EOD would be normal, but for my case should I try 15mg ED?

    My current strategy is to run the following for 13 weeks:

    Test E 500mg/week
    Proviron 75mg/ED
    Aromasin 15mg/EOD
    Nolvadex 10mg/ED

    Blood-work at 5 weeks after 1st Test E shot, if E2 is good, drop the Nolvadex.
    You could run the Nov at 10 mgs for start ....if gyno appears bump it up to 20 mgs a day through pct. I have done this with success a few times.

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