anavar Hmmmmm.

[jolter604]

Anavar is it really worth it, I mean six weeks at 100 Mg is going around 400 plus. Is it going to be any good. I heard it sucks and I heard it kicks ass. I'm went winstrol for next year's oral but people keep telling me I should have gone var. Has anyone used both and had better results with the other?

[< <Samson> >]

Why run orals at all, IMO? Nothing mast can't cover

[Ashop]

Anavar is it really worth it, I mean six weeks at 100 Mg is going around 400 plus. Is it going to be any good. I heard it sucks and I heard it kicks ass. I'm went winstrol for next year's oral but people keep telling me I should have gone var. Has anyone used both and had better results with the other?

I love ANAVAR even in lower dosages like 40-60mg daily for 10 weeks or so.
I always notice nice strength,,hardness and some lean mass gains and no sides
I have ever noticed. Less harsh on HPTA but still suppressive.

[jolter604]

Can u run masteron with npp?

[Buster Brown]

Can u run masteron with npp?

Why do you ask?

[jolter604]

I ordered 3 bottles of test e and 3 bottles of npp with oral winstrol ,but I think I'm only going to use the oils. No orals. And I was thinking Of adding something else to but I think I will just roll with what I have.

[< <Samson> >]

Can't really comment on NPP or Deca - neither really gave me enough interest - nothing special about either from everything I have heard & researched


Next time I do a milder cycle(than tren ) I am just doing heavier test from now on


Test is best . . . . .


Aside from the harsh ass compounds that I have been running


But, either way a steroid is a steroid


LoL - 3 vials, I remember that shit from three years ago when I started

[Bio-Active]

Can u run masteron with npp?

You can but I wouldn't. Run one ore the other with test as a base. Mast will be best to use when you are already lean so you can see what it's doing. When you are lean enough it will give that hard and grainy look.

[jolter604]

I figured that would give me three weeks of test to get in my system, ten weeks npp and test then last week of just test. I was going to run the winstrol last 40 days but I will let my liver have a break. And I also have 100 20 Mg dbol but I heard alot of bad stuff about dbol.

[< <Samson> >]

dBol is probably the mildest - Next to Var I suppose & what dose of each



The only thing that appealed to me about pills is that they are cheap. I'll leave the Var to chix


After my last run on dRol I am done with all pills - I was thinking of running Winny, but a guy I know locally was bitching and moaning on how he was having kidney pains - but, we drink a grip too


But, just no need for em from what I can see

[Bio-Active]

dBol is probably the mildest - Next to Var I suppose & what dose of each

The only thing that appealed to me about pills is that they are cheap. I'll leave the Var to chix

After my last run on dRol I am done with all pills - I was thinking of running Winny, but a guy I know locally was bitching and moaning on how he was having kidney pains - but, we drink a grip too

But, just no need for em from what I can see

Yes I agree I gave up on Orals years ago. They are hard on our body's and a pain to have to take them all the time too

[Buster Brown]

dBol is probably the mildest - Next to Var I suppose & what dose of each

The only thing that appealed to me about pills is that they are cheap. I'll leave the Var to chix

After my last run on dRol I am done with all pills - I was thinking of running Winny, but a guy I know locally was bitching and moaning on how he was having kidney pains - but, we drink a grip too

But, just no need for em from what I can see

I liked Winnie orals despite the bad rap they get. At 50 mgs a day I had no issues...

[Bio-Active]

I liked Winnie orals despite the bad rap they get. At 50 mgs a day I had no issues...

No joint pain? Your lucky

[< <Samson> >]

The way I came to this conclusion;

One, we run em' for short bursts - what are you going to gain in a month's time?

Two - for cutting, why not just use injectables? If you compete, this is where shit changes and the "semi norm" goes out the window


Because if I was to compete, I'd run pills only for the final two weeks prior to comp. It's awful just thinking about it - But, it is what it is



I'm bot competing in any shape way or form at this time - shots are a plenty. . . lol

[< <Samson> >]

No joint pain? Your lucky

Oh yeah, my one guy was bitching about how much his joints popped too

[jolter604]

I want to run tren but I am a little intimidated by night sweat and
Other stuff, and I heard npp was similar to it,qood quality muscle compared to bloating from deca .im on test and eq right now and love the pumps but then they go away.

[Bio-Active]

I want to run tren but I am a little intimidated by night sweat and
Other stuff, and I heard npp was similar to it,qood quality muscle compared to bloating from deca.im on test and eq right now and love the pumps but then they go away.

Your nutrition and managing your e2 will dictate the bloat. Npp and deca are both nandrolone just different esters they are suspended in

[jolter604]

Yeah I read that nandralone gives more bloating than the Phyl.but I hit deca along time ago a big brown bottle 50 Mg. With sus 250 I gained alot and kept alot. But my ass always hurt.

[< <Samson> >]

But my ass always hurt.

Can't help ya what that around deez parts


LMAO


Couldn't resist

[Buster Brown]

No joint pain? Your lucky

I was dreading it...but nothing. I ran it along with tes, tren , and it was part of a 9 month hgh/t4 cycle so there wasn't anything in the combo to offset it if it were to occur.

[Bio-Active]

Yeah I read that nandralone gives more bloating than the Phyl.but I hit deca along time ago a big brown bottle 50 Mg. With sus 250 I gained alot and kept alot. But my ass always hurt.

Nandrolone is nandrolone. Deca is nandrolone decanate and npp is nandrolone phenyl prop. They are the same compound and bloat will be determined by estro control and nutrition

[Bio-Active]

I was dreading it...but nothing. I ran it along with tes, tren, and it was part of a 9 month hgh/t4 cycle so there wasn't anything in the combo to offset it if it were to occur.

I wouldn't run winny again unless pre contest it just kills my joints but it does do a great job drying me out

[Buster Brown]

I wouldn't run winny again unless pre contest it just kills my joints but it does do a great job drying me out

I wouldn't risk it again with my luck. It did do a great job drying me out more then just a tes /tren Cal def cycle.

[Bio-Active]

I wouldn't risk it again with my luck. It did do a great job drying me out more then just a tes /tren Cal def cycle.

Right masteron works great with no sides hardly

[ScotchGuard02]

I like var but I don't think it's worth the money. The last time I ran winny I thought I needed knee replacements. I was in pain for the whole oral cycle. I ran separate cycles Test/Deca & Test/NPP. I liked the Test P/NPP cycle better. I seemed to hold less water, injections were smooth, and got good strength gains.

[jolter604]

is tren really that bad i heard allot of people say they jump off it,even the pills.i want to run it after a couple cycles though.

[jolter604]

i know they are the same but allot of people on here say they get less water on npp.but i am sure it is mainly there diet because most people use npp when they are cutting.

[jolter604]

I found some 50 mg anavar for a reasonable price, I am pretty sure its not a pure 50 mg.

[jolter604]

I love ANAVAR even in lower dosages like 40-60mg daily for 10 weeks or so.
I always notice nice strength,,hardness and some lean mass gains and no sides
I have ever noticed. Less harsh on HPTA but still suppressive.

Allot of what I read says anavar is popular for cutting sense it has muscle suppression ability. I want to run tren in my next cycle and I am thinking of adding dbol , tbol, or anavar. I am leaning on tbol to get the most solid gains for my buck.

[Mister Tom]

If you need to run 100 mg of var then it's not real var 30-60 mg would be more then effective 80 tops . Anything more then that you have an extremely high chance of shutting yourself down . A

[Mp859]

If you need to run 100 mg of var then it's not real var 30-60 mg would be more then effective 80 tops . Anything more then that you have an extremely high chance of shutting yourself down . A

Shutting yourself down? You are shut down at any dose.

[jstone]

If you can source good var, I think its the best oral out there. 100mg a day is overboard, if you need 100mg its not very good anavar . I like 50mg per day, 25am/25pm. For some reason var adds strenght for me more than anything I have tried. My first time with tren I ran var in the begining and strentgh gains were unreal. Im still very week compared to everyone here, but the increase was huge.

Jolter dont fear tren, I was all worked up and thougbt the sides would be horrible, but they weren't bad. Anger went up, body temp was around 99.5 most of the time, and I sweated lime a pig. No night sweats accept once or twice, but in the end the dreams started to get wild.

[< <Samson> >]

Shutting yourself down? You are shut down at any dose.

Well, kinda sorta


I do see guys run super low doses of orals & be aight

I wouldn't do it though - they are just too scurd of the spike

[Mp859]

Well, kinda sorta I do see guys run super low doses of orals & be aight I wouldn't do it though - they are just too scurd of the spike

They also get 0 gains lol. Just a waste of perfectly good orals.

[tice1212]

If you need to run 100 mg of var then it's not real var 30-60 mg would be more then effective 80 tops . Anything more then that you have an extremely high chance of shutting yourself down . A

U take 50mg+ u have a extremely high chance of shutting down. 30mgs won't do sh*t. 60mg+ at least. Its HARD to find legit Var. I have tested 6 different brands now and only 2 have been legit.. Op masteron is much better. I run 1gram of it with zero side. (I'm not saying to run that high just giving an example) 700mg is a great range for masteron e . Yes its good to be a low bf% but it still puts on slow solid muscle IMO.better bang for ur buck. Less chance to be faked too.

[jolter604]

If you need to run 100 mg of var then it's not real var 30-60 mg would be more then effective 80 tops . Anything more then that you have an extremely high chance of shutting yourself down . A

I would never run a cycle without test.....but ty

[jolter604]

If you can source good var, I think its the best oral out there. 100mg a day is overboard, if you need 100mg its not very good anavar . I like 50mg per day, 25am/25pm. For some reason var adds strenght for me more than anything I have tried. My first time with tren I ran var in the begining and strentgh gains were unreal. Im still very week compared to everyone here, but the increase was huge.

Jolter dont fear tren, I was all worked up and thougbt the sides would be horrible, but they weren't bad. Anger went up, body temp was around 99.5 most of the time, and I sweated lime a pig. No night sweats accept once or twice, but in the end the dreams started to get wild.

The funny part is I get night sweats from 600 mg of test....

[jolter604]

U take 50mg+ u have a extremely high chance of shutting down. 30mgs won't do sh*t. 60mg+ at least. Its HARD to find legit Var. I have tested 6 different brands now and only 2 have been legit.. Op masteron is much better. I run 1gram of it with zero side. (I'm not saying to run that high just giving an example) 700mg is a great range for masteron e . Yes its good to be a low bf% but it still puts on slow solid muscle IMO.better bang for ur buck. Less chance to be faked too.

I was going for ten weeks of 75 mg test prop 100 mgbtren ace 125 mg of masteron eod. Maybe adding 60 mg of var or turanibol for 8 weeks. I keep reading how tren and anadrol dbol var or turanibol give each other a boost. Like u get more out of it putting tren and One of those orals together.

[tice1212]

I was going for ten weeks of 75 mg test prop 100 mgbtren ace 125 mg of masteron eod. Maybe adding 60 mg of var or turanibol for 8 weeks. I keep reading how tren and anadrol dbol var or turanibol give each other a boost. Like u get more out of it putting tren and One of those orals together.

Yeah when u start adding more then one compound to a test cycle is much more powerful. Like Dave Palumbo says if you add deca or tren to a test cycle its not like 1+1=2 it more like 1+1=4. You're just going to get more of a better reaction from adding another compound to your test cycle. I think I would go with the tbol over all those orals. Legit var is hard to find and its expensive as hell. Ive heard many people say that a50 makes them not want to eat. Well you can grow properly if u cant eat properly. Dbol is ok just a little more water then I would personaly like to hold. Good luck bro.

[jstone]

I just noticed your response. I have had night sweats from test as well, but tren only gave them to me a couple nights. The tren I got came highly recommended, but im not sure so I picked up some tren from my go to source along with one other. So I have tren from 3 labs, next time I run it I will run 3 weeks of each to compare.

like everyone said good var is hard to find, but when you do its great. I found a small lab that makes great anavar . I have labmaxed it before, and it passed with flying corlors. I have a lot more of it on the way, along with a labmax refill.

I will post pictures in the ugl section of my testing. Its a smallish lab that not a lot of people know about, and I have seen there primo, anavar, and tren labmaxed by others and they all passed.

I wasn't planning on doing the labmax tests until im ready use it, but I will post them when the anavar and refill test kit comes in. If you have a good source that you trust give anavar a go. Im sure you will like it.