Did var permanantly mess up my test levels?

**Silentkiller424** · 01-09-2015, 12:43 PM

Im a 19 year old male. I took anavar 20mg increasing it to 30mg for 8 days, when i realised i shouldn't be doing aas right now.
It dropped my test levels from 817ng/dl to 154ng/dl.
I too, clomid for 10 days and my test came at 1117ng/dl.
However after i stopped the clomid my test levels dropped again. They are at 400ng/dl right now, and its almost been 2 months.
I feel weak and depressed and am losing weight/strength.Most of the gains i had made in the past 1.5years have gone. I feel suicidal at times, but i try to fight it hard. My doctor thinks my test levels are fine because they are in the "normal" range, and so do my parents because of which im finding it hard to get proper treatment. I had dreams of being a fitness model, which i think have gone down the drain.
I got an appointment with a very good endo in 11 days.
Im finding it hard function, concentrate on studies and carry out college work. I also have depersonalization disorder and mild psychosis, after i had smoked fake weed.
Will my test levels ever be back to normal, like they were pre cycle, near 817ng/dl? Could have 8 days of var **** my hpta forever?

**chris_columbia** · 01-09-2015, 12:50 PM

You'll be fine, i'm glad you realized that you aren't ready for AAS, ESPECIALLY SMOKING FAKE WEED SHOULD'VE BEEN A DEAD GIVE AWAY. but 8 days of anavar at that low of a dose shouldn't of messed you up that bad, you have to give it time. Your pct was shit. you should run clomid at 100/75/50/50 and nolvadex at 40/40/20/20 go to the top right of the page and buy these two products and run them for 4 weeks side by side and than report back.

**Buster Brown** · 01-09-2015, 12:54 PM

Run a complete pct of
Clo@ 100/50/50/50
Nov @ 40/40/20/20
Get bloods done two months after

**jimmyinkedup** · 01-09-2015, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

Run a complete pct of
Clo@ 100/50/50/50
Nov @ 40/40/20/20
Get bloods done two months after

This, and do not forget this. Hopefully this pct will restore your natural test production and you did not harm your hpta. Best of luck to you and again, do not forget this and do not make the same mistake again.

**ScotchGuard02** · 01-09-2015, 01:04 PM

Your body is pretty resilient if you take care of it. Give it time and be patient.

**Silentkiller424** · 01-09-2015, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

This, and do not forget this. Hopefully this pct will restore your natural test production and you did not harm your hpta. Best of luck to you and again, do not forget this and do not make the same mistake again.

Can somebody please explain what does 100/50/50/50 of clomid mean. Does it mean i have to take that dose every week for 4 weeks?
Does 8 days of such low dose var need such an aggressive pct?
Should i start the pct now itself or should i wait till i see the endocrinologist i am scheduled to and see what he says?
When i was taking clomid, my test reported at 1117ng/dl, along with that my estrogen was very high, at 72units, 20-42 being the preferred range. What could have caused that? Should i use an AI during pct?
I have read many places that clomid only boosts test while you are on it, and the same thing happened with me. Would this sort of a pct actually keep my test levels high once im done with it?

**chris_columbia** · 01-09-2015, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Silentkiller424

Can somebody please explain what does 100/50/50/50 of clomid mean. Does it mean i have to take that dose every week for 4 weeks?
Does 8 days of such low dose var need such an aggressive pct?
Should i start the pct now itself or should i wait till i see the endocrinologist i am scheduled to and see what he says?
When i was taking clomid, my test reported at 1117ng/dl, along with that my estrogen was very high, at 72units, 20-42 being the preferred range. What could have caused that? Should i use an AI during pct?
I have read many places that clomid only boosts test while you are on it, and the same thing happened with me. Would this sort of a pct actually keep my test levels high once im done with it?

Clomid
100mg every day (1st week
50mg every day (2nd week)
Same for third
same for fourth
nolvadex
40mg every day first weak
repeat for 2nd week
20mg every day for 3rd week
repeat for 4th week
Start this now.
DO NOT RUN AN AI DURING PCT
AND YES pct helps bring your test levels back up after cycle EVEN After your off. Why would you not want to be aggressive against something that could **** up your hpta and ruin your life? Im not sure what could've caused the high estrogen.

**Chicagotarsier** · 01-10-2015, 05:54 AM

Why is medical use of Anavar on males not prescribed with a PCT regime?

**Bonaparte** · 01-10-2015, 01:08 PM

Var just isn't that harsh. Nothing is, apart from maybe methyltren. And even then, being suicidal etc with T levels at 400 is melodramatic.
Endogenous test levels fluctuate throughout the day, so it sounds like you're getting a bad reading and losing your mind over it. You've probably got yourself so worked up over this that you're hardly eating or sleeping, which is compounding the problem. Less is more here. You need to just trust that your body will fix itself (it will) and stop fixating on this issue. Oh, and please don't touch any more substances, as you're too sensitive and/or impressionable.

**Silentkiller424** · 01-10-2015, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Var just isn't that harsh. Nothing is, apart from maybe methyltren. And even then, being suicidal etc with T levels at 400 is melodramatic.
Endogenous test levels fluctuate throughout the day, so it sounds like you're getting a bad reading and losing your mind over it. You've probably got yourself so worked up over this that you're hardly eating or sleeping, which is compounding the problem. Less is more here. You need to just trust that your body will fix itself (it will) and stop fixating on this issue. Oh, and please don't touch any more substances, as you're too sensitive and/or impressionable.

Its the psycosis and derealization that makes me feel suicidal, its messed up when you here voices for no reason . Its true that endogenous test levels fluctuate throughout the day, but i dont think having a drop of 817ng/dl to 400ng/dl is not normal day to day change in test levels or a just bad reading, the test levels are half than what they were before. I try not to lose my mind over it but im not able to make gains in the gym anymore, my diet and training are in check..i dont workout for 2 days and i start losing gains
Im not even able to grow facial or any body hair now, whereas before id have to shave every 2 days. i dont think its a psycological issue. Im not even sure if the var i used was legit var, a steroid user/doctor told me they might be estrogen pills