I am on my 6th day of d-bol and I have already gained 5 lbs! I havent noticed any bloating or water retention yet. I have already have an awesome strength increase that I was looking after my cycle was already over, but I have already acheived that in 6 days!! I cant even imagine what its gonna be like in 4 weeks! However, I have had some lower back pains, why does d-bol cause this? Anyways, if you are the right age and you are hesitant to use d-bol I strongly recommend that you try it! I am takin the russians by the way at 35 mgs for 4 weeks.