What seprates the freaky big bodbuilder you see in the gym and walking around

[marcus300]

You know the guys the ones you watch in the gym, the ones who turn heads, the ones who when you walk past you stir but he doesn't stir back because he doesn't recognise you a bodybuilder.....come on lets be honest in your answers what do you separates them from us>>>>

Ive talked about this many times in my thread but I know some don't read it so give me your thoughts on the matter, no matter if its of difference opinions that mine or someone else's what do you really think separates those monsters.

[davidtheman100]

I'd say alot of it is people knowing how to stimulate muscle growth. People who train really hard and know how to keep up the intensity, they know a crap load about dieting, and have some good genetics. We see alot of people in the gym working out, but their form can sometimes make it so they're actually working a different muscle that they didn't even want to, without them knowing it. We see alot of people in the gym who lift regularly, but take WAYY to much time between sets, and don't nearly go to failure, and they wonder why they don't grow.


Alot of the times, it's not the peoples fault who aren't growing. It's magazines and ads etc. telling them that if they do a weird type of pushup 20 times for 10 minutes that they can look like the people on the front cover of the magazine. Of corse theres the cases where people aren't eating nearly enough for muscle growth which is a large population.

So i'd say a mixture of hard intensity training, knowing your body, good genetics, dedicated dieting and being an informed consumer about the fitness industry and not falling for the new "fad" all time time AKA just simply doing the things that you know work.

[marcus300]

I'd say alot of it is people knowing how to stimulate muscle growth. People who train really hard and know how to keep up the intensity, they know a crap load about dieting, and have some good genetics. We see alot of people in the gym working out, but their form can sometimes make it so they're actually working a different muscle that they didn't even want to, without them knowing it. We see alot of people in the gym who lift regularly, but take WAYY to much time between sets, and don't nearly go to failure, and they wonder why they don't grow.


Alot of the times, it's not the peoples fault who aren't growing. It's magazines and ads etc. telling them that if they do a weird type of pushup 20 times for 10 minutes that they can look like the people on the front cover of the magazine. Of corse theres the cases where people aren't eating nearly enough for muscle growth which is a large population.

So i'd say a mixture of hard intensity training, knowing your body, good genetics, dedicated dieting and being an informed consumer about the fitness industry and not falling for the new "fad" all time time AKA just simply doing the things that you know work.

Excellent agree totally. Well said

[marcus300]

I'd say alot of it is people knowing how to stimulate muscle growth. People who train really hard and know how to keep up the intensity, they know a crap load about dieting, and have some good genetics. We see alot of people in the gym working out, but their form can sometimes make it so they're actually working a different muscle that they didn't even want to, without them knowing it. We see alot of people in the gym who lift regularly, but take WAYY to much time between sets, and don't nearly go to failure, and they wonder why they don't grow.


Alot of the times, it's not the peoples fault who aren't growing. It's magazines and ads etc. telling them that if they do a weird type of pushup 20 times for 10 minutes that they can look like the people on the front cover of the magazine. Of corse theres the cases where people aren't eating nearly enough for muscle growth which is a large population.

So i'd say a mixture of hard intensity training, knowing your body, good genetics, dedicated dieting and being an informed consumer about the fitness industry and not falling for the new "fad" all time time AKA just simply doing the things that you know work.

Excellent agree totally. Well said

[JAYROD]

1 they don't have the genetics
2 they don't use the bread and butter movements that work
3 they don't have the heart

[Buster Brown]

Like any sport.....there are the great ones. What makes a great boxer, martial artist, football player,etc? Same thing with bodybuilding ........its a culmination of things, not just one. Those big guys have the genetics, an incredible work ethic, total dedication and desire to be who they are.

[BG]

I have a friend that I see at the gym on Saturdays, he's 46, I stood there last week and could not help but question my dedication. Rarely I feel small or not worthy in the gym, but I did standing there talking to him.I dint even try to push my chest out or pull my shoulders back, would have just made it worst.

[< <Samson> >]

Genetics


I have guys here who run half the gear of me, eat whatever & are 25 pounds heavier than me


Do I care?! - nope


Women don't give them a 2nd look at all & prefer guys even smaller than my size



So who's is it for? I am close to my max want of growing, period - I get more nonsense comments from guys than anything. . . . How you get so big, what u bench man, how often you workout man, what do you eat, what kinda protein you take - - - yeah

[marcus300]

I have a friend that I see at the gym on Saturdays, he's 46, I stood there last week and could not help but question my dedication. Rarely I feel small or not worthy in the gym, but I did standing there talking to him.I dint even try to push my chest out or pull my shoulders back, would have just made it worst.

How big is this guy bg

[BG]

How big is this guy bg

He's around 5'9" 235 at 7-8% bf. Thing is e is jacked, lean and has a life time in. You know when you do everything rigt for a long time the rewards are great. My training partner is bigger, he's 5'9" 273 right now, but he's big and thick at 15-17%. He's huge, but doesnt have the jacked/BB'r look.

Edit:heres a pic of my TP's, this is after 2 months of not training because of surgery.

[marcus300]

That's huge

[BG]

He's big and thick for sure. Cant find jeans that fits no where.

This other guy on Saturdays is nasty, I heard a kid say "I cant believe they let him in here" ,HAHA judgement free zone.

[clarky.]

Now that is a big back.

Can't believe they let him in here that's funny

[NACH3]

1. Consistency
2. Training Knowledge - Knowing when/& how to train for volume and strength/power movements
3. Going to Failure - I rarely see people train to absolute failure(that's the first thing my father taught me)
4. INTENSITY IMO is key... People ask how can you take 30 seconds or less In between complete sets especially if I'm super setting(back to back no rest/30s or less then get back at it!)...(i.e.; I do push pull method... Chest/back(Mon. & Thur.)/Bi's & Tri's together(Tues. Fri.)/Shoulders & Legs(Wed. Sat.) off Sunday... My basic breakdown.
5. Genetics

[NACH3]

I have a friend that I see at the gym on Saturdays, he's 46, I stood there last week and could not help but question my dedication. Rarely I feel small or not worthy in the gym, but I did standing there talking to him.I dint even try to push my chest out or pull my shoulders back, would have just made it worst.

I don't see any clear reason for you(BG) to ? Your dedication(I know it was a joke, too) but Damn look at your tri's(and all your muscle fiber striations) lol... But that dude sounds Nasty! Haha

[JAYROD]

1. Consistency
2. Training Knowledge - Knowing when/& how to train for volume and strength/power movements
3. Going to Failure - I rarely see people train to absolute failure(that's the first thing my father taught me)
4. INTENSITY IMO is key... People ask how can you take 30 seconds or less In between complete sets especially if I'm super setting(back to back no rest/30s or less then get back at it!)...(i.e.; I do push pull method... Chest/back(Mon. & Thur.)/Bi's & Tri's together(Tues. Fri.)/Shoulders & Legs(Wed. Sat.) off Sunday... My basic breakdown.
5. Genetics

intensity for sure. I love supersets using opposing muscles as well and it will kick your hind end if hit your chest and back together. love the pump you get also.

[Buster Brown]

He's big and thick for sure. Cant find jeans that fits no where.

This other guy on Saturdays is nasty, I heard a kid say "I cant believe they let him in here" ,HAHA judgement free zone.

That's one big boy!

[kapper]

They are also the ones who push thru the little niggling injuries, the ones who train when there sick, they dont drink on weekends and go 3 steps back.. All the little things add up to BIG things. And obviously all of what was said above without a doubt

The title of this thread and some of the comments has got my heart racing lol

[PistolPete33]

I've actually decided that I don't want to get any/much bigger than I am right now. I think it's time to just get way leaner and get some cardio back. Most women like guys that are muscular but not massive. My wife hates when I bulk and likes me in the summer when I'm lean.

However, I do agree that a lot of it is genetic and so much of it is the dedication. It takes years and years to truly build a great physique and many of these guys have simply put the time in consistenly without the time on/time off that most of us do.

[Haydenz]

What separates them in my eyes and this is something I have only come to learn in my later years of lifting is,

We all get caught up in everyone elses " diets , training routines , gear " etc..

Everyone is different and the guys at the top know how to fine tune THEMSELVES, if you dont know your body and what works with you, then you still have much to learn, stop looking at what everyone else is doing and focus on your OWN body and what stimulates growth for you.

Everyone wants to be the next Phil heath of the next Frank zane, but everyone seems to forget, What about being the best YOU?

[mark woods]

I'm not one to buy into the genetics argument as a rule but I believe the people we are talking about are well informed people on all aspects of bodybuilding and diet and ESPECIALLY on steriods and the freaks in my opinion are the result of high dose's of hgh and insulin (maybe even abuse)for long periods of time.I'm not a fan of that look but it's impressive to see alright.

[hawk14dl]

Foooooooood!

And intensity.

And more food.

[kelkel]

I have a friend

Aww...

[clarky.]

Hahaha ^^

[Lee_1978]

I agree with everyone on the points raised so far, and l believe in my opinion that genetics are key to achieving a body that sets you apart from everyone else. It's a number of things, primarily the body's ability to synthesise Test/IGF-1 naturally coupled with dedication, consistency and a great diet. When you add gear into the equation, you have a recipe for excellence!

[marcus300]

All great answers.................keep em coming

[Haydenz]

the whole " GENETICS " thing is a cop out, im so sick of hearing it, i do believe genetics play a part but you cant say every amazing athlete that steps on that stage,

and lets face it to get to the OLYMPIA you have to be pretty damn impressive,

you cant say they are ALL genetically gifted, its a persistence of hard work and total understanding of there body.

If its all down to genetics, I might as well quit now.

[Gaspaco]

the whole " GENETICS " thing is a cop out, im so sick of hearing it, i do believe genetics play a part but you cant say every amazing athlete that steps on that stage, and lets face it to get to the OLYMPIA you have to be pretty damn impressive, you cant say they are ALL genetically gifted, its a persistence of hard work and total understanding of there body. If its all down to genetics, I might as well quit now.

Its hard to admit but genetic is EVERYTHING and even more.

The shape of your muscles is genetic!

The body and bone structure is genetic!

How u burn fat and gaining muscle and can keep gains from cycle is genetic.

Have good joints to never get injured even if u lifting like idiot is genetic.



If u take two people and one is well blessed with genes the other can do anything, eat better, work harder sleep more, never will reach his shape.


JUST MY 2 CENTS

[MR-FQ320]

My thoughts are this, you need knowledge, genetics and the right attitude/determination. The stronger you are in one two or three of these areas the further you will progress in you BB career. For example, a guy with shit genetics but read up a fair bit and work out hard for a decent amount, this guy will do ok and Prob get to a level he will be happy at, or come to the realisation that he can't go any further

[zempey]

To me the difference between them and me is, they have chose to make BB the main focus in their life, a lifestyle choice that takes far more dedication than most will be able to commit to. The diet, training, amount of gear, time in and out of the gym dedicated to one main goal, being a monster. Genetics plays a huge role, it doesn't matter if you do everything right, if your proportions are off and you don't look good, you will never make it to the pro level. I have never been consistent enough with any part of BB to achieve the look I ultimately want, that is all on me, my choice, I have to live with it. Now I train every day to get closer to the look I want. I know I will never have a BB look, I am too tall and would have to be over 400lbs lean to be even close to that look.

[marcus300]

He's big and thick for sure. Cant find jeans that fits no where.

This other guy on Saturdays is nasty, I heard a kid say "I cant believe they let him in here" ,HAHA judgement free zone.

How does he train mate?

[BG]

How does he train mate?

Well now my training partner has changed to a lighter sort of training since tearing his tri. I need to get back in with him and ingrain HIT style. The guy on sat is higher reps, super set.

[NACH3]

Well now my training partner has changed to a lighter sort of training since tearing his tri. I need to get back in with him and ingrain HIT style. The guy on sat is higher reps, super set.

Doing A HIT style of workout IMO(working opposing muscles/supersetting) is the say to go, obviously on a cut...which sounds what he's trying to achieve by his 6-7% bf!

I totally agree with this type of Intensity and program... It's how I went from 12% to 8%(or how I would go about cutting/& dropping bf%)!

[Buster Brown]

the whole " GENETICS " thing is a cop out, im so sick of hearing it, i do believe genetics play a part but you cant say every amazing athlete that steps on that stage,

and lets face it to get to the OLYMPIA you have to be pretty damn impressive,

you cant say they are ALL genetically gifted, its a persistence of hard work and total understanding of there body.

If its all down to genetics, I might as well quit now.

I have been tired of hearing about genetics for 28 years as well.....but it is a fact and something we all must face. I once thought like you and when I focused on being the best I could be it made me appreciate those that truly are great. If we were all freaks we would still want to be more and look at the next level of freakiness.

[< <Samson> >]

When I say "genetics" - I don't mean just magic


More like, things effect some dif than others. For instance, some do the same amount of whatever substance, yet get 2x the result of someone else. Or nutrition - some people just metabolize food better than other. Along with some who just have the drive in their genes & some just the opposite.

I see it all day - some people are just overall weaker than others - emotionally or physically

It all genetics - yet, our mind does control a huge portion- but, if the mind is weak, you're not left with much

It's what separates us all - from the guy who's happy to work at KFC for a decade, to the guy who's putting his life on the line to be a pioneer of his time.

[BG]

Or do legs.

[< <Samson> >]

Or do legs.

I'll hit em hard, as soon as the first girl asks me to flex my quad - I'm still waiting. Lol

[tice1212]

I'll hit em hard, as soon as the first girl asks me to flex my quad - I'm still waiting. Lol

F*cking funny story about that quote u put up^^^

So the other day I got this chick from the gym to my house to f*ck and she started stripping me. I was fully torqued in my boxers and I stood up to take them off and she said "I don't know if I'm more impressed by the baseball bat in ur boxers or quads!" Just thankful I do legs hahaha

[musclestack]

I'll hit em hard, as soon as the first girl asks me to flex my quad - I'm still waiting. Lol

While I find it true that most girls/women who like guys who are built/fit concentrate more on the upper body, I've also come across very few of them who like a guy with chicken legs. I've asked many of them about this, and almost all of them say if a guy is huge up top but small on bottom, they look like a douche.

Btw, I'm not taking a jab at you here, Samson. I'm just weighing in with feedback I've gathered from the opposite sex. You sound like you're doing well; more power to you.

[< <Samson> >]

F*cking funny story about that quote u put up^^^ So the other day I got this chick from the gym to my house to f*ck and she started stripping me. I was fully torqued in my boxers and I stood up to take them off and she said "I don't know if I'm more impressed by the baseball bat in ur boxers or quads!" Just thankful I do legs hahaha

LMFAO WOW!

I'd hit legs on the daily after that

Nah, my legs have alway been big, no chicken leg shit hur & I just started training em' too. But, it ain't my focus I feel bad for the guy with pigeon leg genetics

But, that's right - we don't blame genetics here

And I have to be like one of the only guys with an ass. I'm like wtf man, it's still growing & so are my fvcking calves.