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    Question 12 week cycle, not too sure how this works

    My coach sent me a gear regimen to add to my 12 transformation, and it's a 12 week cycle, it's my first time prepping and i'm going to do a show on june, all i want to know how many ampules of Sustanon 250 am i supposed to get for my 12 weeks?(I'm adding other products aswell) but that's all i want to know cause i have a website that has 1 ampule of 250mg, and i need to dose up to 1000mg a week, how many ampules am i supposed to get for the whole 12 weeks?

    Also when i'm 8 weeks out? he told me to add winstrol , tren , masteron , but keep the ones above, i don't understand what he meant by that, did he mean take the winstrol tren and masteron, but continue taking the sus and the other ones? Someone please help me here i'm confused lol


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    1st cycle?

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    You shouldn't be cycling if you can't even figure that out. Assuming you would be taking 500mg a week, you would need two Amps a week so 24 amps over all. But you shouldn't be cycle with your huge lack of knowledge, especially with all those strong compounds you named. Your coach has no interest in your health and well being. If this is your first cycle it should be test only

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    And for 1000mgs you double that 48.

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    What?...My coach is an IFBB Pro but with the gear he's just telling me what to take in order for me to peak for competition, plus..he knows what he know what he's talking about and doing, The gear cycle it's something he can't really help me out with or help me buy. And no it's 1000mg a week my friend.

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    Also...on my 8 weeks out what do i do with the sus and the arimidex , proviron , and eq. Do i continue using it along with the tren , winstrol , masteron ? thats another question i want to know

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    Ok, sounds like you have never cycled before. If you have can you tell us your cycle history and

    Age
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    Age: 22

    Height: 5'7

    Weight:191.3

    Bodyfat: 18%

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    Cycle history?

    Who is this 'coach' recommending this whole cycle to you?
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    And can you post a pic to see how ready you might be for a gram of test per week?
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    And why all the questions? i came here to get answers, not get questioned lol.

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    This forum is about responsible use. What is being recommended is irresponsible, and will cause you problems the rest of your life. Nobody here will help you harm yourself. 22 years of age is to young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _JoelDavid26 View Post
    And why all the questions? i came here to get answers, not get questioned lol.
    So we can help you and not give you blind advice like you may be getting.

    So, the pro can't help you with your cycle but he is giving you a cocktail of drugs just to work out for yourself?

    Again, what is your cycle history?
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    Your coach just charged you a bunch of money for the same steroid list he sends all his clients. You got ripped off, and his advice is harmful for someone who has no idea what they're doing.
    And you're nowhere near competing/needing all that gear with those stats.

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    He told me, once i get the gear regimen on my hand he will help me cycle to get me peaked on stage. And also going to schedule days for me for blood work.

    And this is my first cylce.

    I just wanted to know when im 8 weeks out do i continue taking the sus 250, proviron , eq, arimidex , proviron, when i start taking winstrol , tren , masteron ?
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    How exactly did he rip me off now? if i'm spending more money on food than anything. Also i know jon personally he's giving me meal plans to follow and a fitness program to follow for a decent montly pay.

    And do you even know where i'm getting the gear supplements for you to say that he "Ripped me off?.." lmaoo

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    Listen up to these guys there trying to help you! This cycle is rediculous! Why ruin your life when you can do it when your older and correctly! Honestly your lack of knowledge is surprising when naming these compounds without knowing how to take an AI properly, no mention of PCT, no mention of a Dopamine Agonist for the Tren (males aren't suppose to lacrate) and all this for what?? You may Fack urself for good! We're trying to help you understand he's screwing you and could care less for your health! There is a right way to do this! Read up!

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    Read the links I gave you and please pull out of your plan. You are seriously in danger of long term damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _JoelDavid26
    And why all the questions? i came here to get answers, not get questioned lol.
    Just trying to help. These guys know their stuff. Have you done any research at all? Your asking question and your getting honest answers. Just not the answer you want

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    Oh no, he did recommend me PCT i just didnt bother on posting it up here, like i said he's going to help me cycle.

    I understand we're all adults, but why would someone i've known since i was 17 try to **** me up badly, i'm getting coached by someone who has been doing this for a while now. It's not like i'm getting coached by some NPC bodybuilder who's one their first show and automatically think they're a prep coach. lol

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    this is embaressing man I'm not trying to bash you but you don't know anything 30 minutes on Google and you would know that what your trying to do is all wrong don't take offense to this it's just like everyone els said this is irrisponsible cycling your pro doesn't know as much as you think

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    looks like you have alot of reading to do austinite has some post on here somewhere you should read them from top to bottom.they are pretty efficient .everything you need to know is in there.ask yourself why not just buy some no xplode or some other creatine nitric oxcide booster.you still have some natural gaining to do.eat eat eat.

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    This can't be real life. .

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    Just listen to your coach bro he is the ifbb pro, if anyone else can show higher credentials in BB then let them speak up.

    Everyone else needs to understand if this dude wants to destroy himself to step on stage, then he will not be the first or last lol.

    In saying that I think you need to understand what you are going to do to yourself for a first cycle that isn't even necessary IMO, At 18% body fat at 191 you will look like a twig if you somehow manage a cut to less than 8%, are you competing for physique? In which case you won't need cycle because thats not the look you need.

    But again follow your coach he is the PRO.

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    We aren't suggesting for him to follow the advice of his coach because its wreckless advice.

    191lbs and 18% body fat. . Not even close to being ready to step on stage. Sure, people destroy themselves to get on stage, but they're already close. They've already committed to a life of this.

    18%bf shows he's not committed. I eat like absolute shi+ and I'm lower bf then that. And I damn sure wouldn't go throwing 4 or 5 compounds into a first cycle, just so I could get on stage because some ifbb pro (that im paying) says it will work.
    Nah, I've read way too much on here. I've done way too much research. I know how wrong this "pro's" cycle plan is.

    This cycle plan MIGHT be a good plan for an advanced competitor. One who has used all of these compounds before. Who's already sub 10%bf, that needs the extra push to get down to 7.

    NOT some clown that's 18% that has big league dreams of going on stage.
    Drugs won't get you there. Start dieting, eat right. Try competing next year maybe. But don't resort to every big name drug on the market to try and get you competition ready. It won't work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by _JoelDavid26 View Post
    What?...My coach is an IFBB Pro but with the gear he's just telling me what to take in order for me to peak for competition, plus..he knows what he know what he's talking about and doing, The gear cycle it's something he can't really help me out with or help me buy. And no it's 1000mg a week my friend.
    It doesnt matter who he is or what he has done, #1 he is a dealer and it's about money more than anything.

    If he was your friend or was really concerned with your health or future there is no way he would be suggesting anything like that. IF he really felt you were ready for a cycle it would be a test only cycle like the one in the link provided above. Yeah it's touch when you know someone has had experience but either he has forgotten how to start out or he just doesnt care.

    Would you stick a guy into a Drag race car who is just learning to drive? Not a good idea.

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    Also, if you're paying him. .he's not a friend. He's out to make a buck. Period.

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    I would have guessed Bostin Loyd was your coach with a first time cycle like that, listen to what the guys here are telling you, THIS IS WRONG!

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    I know it sounds like you're getting beat up on, but if you're paying him to be your coach, shouldn't he be answering these questions for you instead?
    Even though health wise, you have gotten much better info from the guys here for free.
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    A test only first cycle is the thing to do, and you can feel it mentally... The cycle you have mentionned is just crazy for a first time, you will go apeshit within the first 2 weeks of it.

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    Again this moronic mentallity that if you are big and lean you know what your doing...

    seriously, people are stupid...

    physic is mostly genetic and drugs...

    think about it... if you have a amazing genetic getting lean will be easy and everything yku do will.work. Ive seen dude with decent amount of muscle mass staying at 6% year round eating pizza and poutine naturally.
    the worst training will work cause your genetic will allow you to grow no matter how bad is your training.

    when you add drug to the mix its amplified.

    if you are huge and lean chance are your genetic is amazing and you use lots of drugs.
    maybe you have average genetic and excellent work ethic and lots of.knowledge.
    but we all know those kind of people are rare...

    so the only way to know how someone got big its by listening to them.
    If they sound moron they probably are.

    your "coach" has given you a cycle that is efficient in term of cutting and peaking. I agree.
    however it is extremely irresponsible for a first timer to use these drugs.
    he clearly dont have your health and well being in mind.
    maybe he his competent but he clearly dont care for your health and just want your money cause this cycle is for very advanced user which you are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    This forum is about responsible use. What is being recommended is irresponsible, and will cause you problems the rest of your life. Nobody here will help you harm yourself. 22 years of age is to young.

    ^^^That about sums it up. Op, I assume he'll be your coach for testosterone replacement therapy as well? One last thing, how do you think "your friend" would like it if he knew you were posting his name in this thread? Edit his name out and grow up. You're in no way ready for that kind of cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _JoelDavid26 View Post
    He told me, once i get the gear regimen on my hand he will help me cycle to get me peaked on stage. And also going to schedule days for me for blood work.

    And this is my first cylce.

    I just wanted to know when im 8 weeks out do i continue taking the sus 250, proviron, eq, arimidex, proviron, when i start taking winstrol, tren, masteron?
    If he has all this experience and you trust him so much why are you asking us, complete strangers? What do we have to gain by giving you bad information? Pay me and I will tell you anything you want to hear also.

    As also stated, it's amazing how many people who are big, genetically gifted or have just been lucky are really clueless when it comes to cycling properly and more than likely they will pay for it eventually and also they will damage others along the way.

    We also see many people ever week here who are looking for help due to negative sides or issues recovering after doing a cycle like yours when they are not ready.

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