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01-21-2015, 03:03 PM #1New Member
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Second cycle. Please advise
Kind of screwed up and bought an oral only 4-week cycle which consists of:
280mgs/week D-Bol
1400mgs/week A50s
7000mgs/week Decca
2100mgs/week Tren
Learned this isn't advised so I'm looking into 1000mg Test E shots twice a week (2000mgs/week) instead.
Can I stack any of the oral tabs with the Test? If so, which would be better?
24yo. 5'9" 165 lbs. Appreciate any and all advice. Thoughts?
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01-21-2015, 03:08 PM #2
Oh my. 2g of test per week as a first cycle? Not sure where you have been doing your research but you need to not go there again.
As advised in your other thread you need to fix your diet at 165lbs. Can you tell us your bodyfat % and detail your current weight gain diet so we can steer you in the right direction?NO SOURCES GIVEN
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01-21-2015, 03:10 PM #3
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01-21-2015, 03:14 PM #4New Member
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Sorry *500mgs Mon & 500 mgs Thurs. for 10 weeks. Getting the info from someone & converted wrong.
10 week cycle - 1g/week
Is that too much?
9% body fat
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01-21-2015, 03:14 PM #5
Is this a joke??? lol
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01-21-2015, 03:18 PM #6New Member
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Please point out what you'd change. I don't plan on taking the oral only cycle. Purchasing it was a mistake. But curious which of those can be stacked with 1g Test E/week
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01-21-2015, 03:28 PM #7
^^^ I agree...
OP... I have done many cycles and still do just fine with 500mg and never more than 1000mg IMO....
and 4 weeks is pointless.. you are very very off track in your understanding. accept you will be researching this for months more before being able to do any of this properly. you don't need to understand in this moment, it will come, but understand that you DON'T understand.
be safe.. good luck!
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01-21-2015, 03:29 PM #8
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01-21-2015, 03:34 PM #9New Member
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Just learning. I'm taking what I hear from a trainer at my gym & asking questions about it here.
How about 500mg/week for 10 weeks? Could that be stacked with any of the oral tabs mentioned above?
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01-21-2015, 03:42 PM #10
You are clutching at straws here.
You can stack anything with anything but relying on AAS to make up for a lacking diet will get you nowhere. Whatever you may gain on cycle you will lose because you don't know how to eat to gain let alone maintain any new tissue.
For the third time, we have a great diet section, post up your diet for review.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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01-21-2015, 03:44 PM #11
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No AI... No hCG ...No DA ... No PCT And was going to run 2 19nors in a first cycle, front loaded w/an oral... 1g of Test... How'd did you even get that idea in the first place?? Read and research buddy its for your own safety! Don't ever rely on another persons knowledge... Most think there is nothing to this... It's the most complicated system in our bodies - The Endocine System! "Austinites Educational Database" is a must... "Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle".
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01-21-2015, 03:50 PM #13New Member
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I think my diet is pretty good. 4-5,000+ calories/day. I track my calories, proteins, carbs & fats. Most of the weight I've gained has been from my diet & proper training the past couple years.
I feel that you're assuming my diet is bad but it's really not.
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01-21-2015, 03:52 PM #14New Member
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Don't plan on starting anything til' I have everything in place & done properly. Wasnt planning on skipping hcg & pct
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01-21-2015, 03:55 PM #15
I'm assuming you want to gain weight and aren't which means you aren't eating enough. Even if you eat 7000cals per day you're not eating enough if you aren't gaining.
What are your current macro's?NO SOURCES GIVEN
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Good! When you run a 19nor make sure you have a Dopamine Agonist on hand for the rise in prolactin can lead to lactation... But if you manage your E2 then this is rare to occur!
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01-21-2015, 04:45 PM #17New Member
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I've definitely been gaining. Just not as fast as I would like.
Macros:
140-160g protein
550-600g carbs
80-90 fats
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01-21-2015, 06:06 PM #18
You should not always listen to your dealer. His job, make money now. Your job, stay safe and try to live. Honestly, you really should start at 500mg of test a week and see how it goes. Some people are prone to gyno and at 1000mg per week to start you would not be giving your body a chance to tell you whether it can handle it or not. Life is long, or at least it should be long, and there is plenty of time to do more if all goes well at lower doses. Good luck!
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01-22-2015, 02:05 AM #19
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01-28-2015, 03:11 PM #20
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^^^ All of this is very solid and smart advice! It's for your own safety! You will always get the right advice here on this forum, but it's up to you to listen!! Re-think... The gear ain't goin nowhere...
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